Here's the issue that awaits you when you move on from NetBeans:
https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/JBR-5980/

I.e., it's probably connected to Swing and a race condition with the clipboard.

Gj

On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 7:39 PM Kenneth Fogel
<kfo...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca.invalid> wrote:
>
> Thank you everyone for your comments. As someone working on Java in Education 
> I believe that this is a serious/critical issue. NetBeans is/was, in my 
> opinion, the best IDE in education. Many schools and students run Windows. 
> Though retired I have written a book and am now working on a project, 
> creating workshops. In both cases I used/use NetBeans. I can't say how much 
> longer I can. Having my train of thought interrupted when I do Ctrl-C and 
> Ctrl-V only to realize it did not work, again, is reaching the end of my 
> patience. Then there are the times I lose code because I forgot to restore 
> (Ctrl-Z) it after pasting it in my text.. I have more work lined up but I'm 
> not sure that I can continue with NetBeans.
>
> I fully appreciate that complaining about Open Source is frowned on. I should 
> just download the code and find/fix the problem myself. What I do not have 
> are the days and possibly weeks to understand how NetBeans interacts with the 
> clipboard to identify the problem. Is there a time when a code base becomes 
> so large that the potential for side effects from changes in other parts of 
> the code base becomes near impossible to determine without a full-time staff. 
> Heck, I came across Eclipse posting a paid job to deal with enhancements to 
> Eclipse.
>
> Ken
>
> PS: Funny Eclipse story. I began teaching using first JDeveloper and then 
> Eclipse. In the late 2000s Eclipse was problematic hence the eventual move to 
> NetBeans in my courses. In most cases the students needed to shutdown Eclipse 
> and restart it. I just played with the recent version of Eclipse and what did 
> I find? It's a menu selection that restarts Eclipse. I guess if you can't fix 
> it then give it a switch to turn it off and then on again in a single click. 
> Doing this in NetBeans buys me between 10 and 30 minutes of working 
> copy/paste.
>
> PPS: It never fails if I Cut. Is this not a significant clue?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Fogel <kfo...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca.INVALID>
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 6:50 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Windows 11 Issues - Copy/Paste Failure
>
> Hi,
>
> I have mentioned this before, but the situation is getting worse. More often 
> than not, I must cut the text, paste the text into the external app such as 
> Word, and then restore (Ctrl-Z) the cut text back into NetBeans. This week it 
> started to require this just when I want to copy and paste text between tabs 
> in NetBeans. My uninformed guess is an issue in how NetBeans responds to the 
> Copy command, somehow losing its connection to the Windows clipboard that 
> does not happen if Cut is used.
>
> But wait, there is more. It has become hit or miss to copy from another 
> application into NetBeans.
>
> I can get a temporary reprieve by closing and then restarting NetBeans.
>
> I do have a question. How many people actively working on NetBeans do this in 
> a Windows rather than Linux or MacOS operating system? I can say that this 
> problem is unique to NetBeans in my Windows 11 environment and has not 
> occurred in any other application or IDE that I have used. I don't think I 
> can file a JIRA ticket because I cannot provide a repeatable example.
>
> Here is my environment from the About box:
>
> Product Version: Apache NetBeans IDE 18
>
> Java: 17.0.7; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 17.0.7+7
>
> Runtime: OpenJDK Runtime Environment 17.0.7+7
>
> System: Windows 11 version 10.0 running on amd64; Cp1252; en_CA (nb)
>
> User directory: C:\Users\omni_\AppData\Roaming\NetBeans\18
>
> Cache directory: C:\Users\omni_\AppData\Local\NetBeans\Cache\18
>
>
> Ken Fogel
>
>
>
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