Thanks for clarifying, I probably got confused since it quoted the +1 mail from Neil directly.
essentially for C: open Favorites without changing anything else on the currently active tab layout. -mbien On 10/7/25 20:40, Christian Lenz wrote: > Hey Micheal, > > in general, you are right that I'm ok with this, I also added another line > later: > > "Services I like too but I think it doesn't need to move to navigator. > Services is good also for beginner to see on the first glance beacuse there > you have databases". > > And I see it as Matthias. And the service tab is opened by default and it > should be as it is. We should not remove functionality, that was already > there. > > So I'm more for the 4th columns and not removing services. Because it is > important for docker, databases, plugins that uses it etc. > > > Cheers > > Chris > > Am 07.10.2025 um 19:33 schrieb Michael Bien: >> as an attempt to summarize the discussion so far: >> >> Eirik: better to leave favorites closed since less important >> Matthias: in favor as long Services tab stays open too >> Chris: in favor, also for opening Favorites tab instead of Services >> Neil: big +1, also for opening Favorites tab instead of Services >> >> Neil did also comment on ASF#netbeans slack in favor for layout options B or >> C, >> worrying about problems on small screens when three-column layout is used. >> >> Me: I am in favor of opening it by default and ok with leaving Services >> closed (since >> it became less useful over time). >> >> please correct me if I interpreted something wrong. >> >> the easiest way forward would be to clarify if Eirik means this as -1 or not, >> if it isn't, we would have achieved consensus* for layout C which is >> essentially >> the "minimum viable product" regarding this change request. >> >> otherwise we might have to start a vote or drop this change entirely. >> >> best regards, >> >> michael >> >> * >> https://community.apache.org/committers/decisionMaking.html#consensus-building >> >> On 9/23/25 17:41, Michael Bien wrote: >>> On 9/23/25 13:55, Michael Bien wrote: >>>> attaching 3 1080p screenshots of how this would look with Services tab >>>> still open. >>>> >>>> Of course, many more layouts are possible, those are just slightly changed >>>> variants of the one of NB 27. >>>> >>>> A - three column >>>> B - nav+services group >>>> C - 4 tab group (aka "don't change anything but open it") >>> looks like the dev list removed the attachments >>> >>> uploaded them to https://mbien.dev/tmp/screens/ >>> >>> (thanks Ernie for the notification) >>> >>> -mbien >>> >>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> mbien >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/21/25 16:26, Michael Bien wrote: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Once the first project opens, NB will open the Projects and Files tabs >>>>> (logical and physical >>>>> project view as they are called in the implementation, now with tooltips >>>>> #8786). >>>>> >>>>> I think we should also open the Favorites tab in the same tab group, >>>>> since it serves as >>>>> view for non-project based use cases (also #8798 for adding the project >>>>> dir by default). >>>>> >>>>> It might get tight in that tab group since the Services tab is there too, >>>>> so this might >>>>> mean that we move it over where the Navigator is, or possibly not open >>>>> Services >>>>> by default? (I have it usually closed or at least minimized and generally >>>>> don't use it very >>>>> often) >>>>> >>>>> As stretch goal I would want to open the Favorites tab on first file open >>>>> additionally >>>>> to first project open, but I am not quite sure how to do that yet. This >>>>> might be >>>>> interesting for education and "compact java file" use cases which don't >>>>> need projects (yet). >>>>> >>>>> best regards, >>>>> >>>>> michael >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
