as an attempt to summarize the discussion so far: Eirik: better to leave favorites closed since less important Matthias: in favor as long Services tab stays open too Chris: in favor, also for opening Favorites tab instead of Services Neil: big +1, also for opening Favorites tab instead of Services
Neil did also comment on ASF#netbeans slack in favor for layout options B or C, worrying about problems on small screens when three-column layout is used. Me: I am in favor of opening it by default and ok with leaving Services closed (since it became less useful over time). please correct me if I interpreted something wrong. the easiest way forward would be to clarify if Eirik means this as -1 or not, if it isn't, we would have achieved consensus* for layout C which is essentially the "minimum viable product" regarding this change request. otherwise we might have to start a vote or drop this change entirely. best regards, michael * https://community.apache.org/committers/decisionMaking.html#consensus-building On 9/23/25 17:41, Michael Bien wrote: > On 9/23/25 13:55, Michael Bien wrote: >> attaching 3 1080p screenshots of how this would look with Services tab still >> open. >> >> Of course, many more layouts are possible, those are just slightly changed >> variants of the one of NB 27. >> >> A - three column >> B - nav+services group >> C - 4 tab group (aka "don't change anything but open it") > looks like the dev list removed the attachments > > uploaded them to https://mbien.dev/tmp/screens/ > > (thanks Ernie for the notification) > > -mbien > > >> regards, >> >> mbien >> >> >> On 9/21/25 16:26, Michael Bien wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Once the first project opens, NB will open the Projects and Files tabs >>> (logical and physical >>> project view as they are called in the implementation, now with tooltips >>> #8786). >>> >>> I think we should also open the Favorites tab in the same tab group, since >>> it serves as >>> view for non-project based use cases (also #8798 for adding the project dir >>> by default). >>> >>> It might get tight in that tab group since the Services tab is there too, >>> so this might >>> mean that we move it over where the Navigator is, or possibly not open >>> Services >>> by default? (I have it usually closed or at least minimized and generally >>> don't use it very >>> often) >>> >>> As stretch goal I would want to open the Favorites tab on first file open >>> additionally >>> to first project open, but I am not quite sure how to do that yet. This >>> might be >>> interesting for education and "compact java file" use cases which don't >>> need projects (yet). >>> >>> best regards, >>> >>> michael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
