Hi, FYI: I asked the community whether translations are needed on twitter. The results(90 votes) are the following: Q. Do you need translations? A1. Yes (Whole IDE) 41% A2. Yes (Only platform) 10% A3. No 49% https://twitter.com/junichi_11/status/1109250341634084864
So it seems that the community prefers translations for the whole IDE. Thanks, Junichi On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:59 PM Boris Heithecker <boris.heithec...@gmx.net> wrote: > > I'd like to see the l10n files from the donation in the new repo for a > first thing to be done. Next thing could be rewriting the scripts, but it > depends on how the the bundles are going to be used. > I need them for a platform application which now still runs on 8.2 but > should be ported to 10 or 11 in the near future. So I'd like to either have > a script to integrate a specific locale into an existing target platform, > or have the specific binaries ready for use. > But that's for a platform application, which uses only a small part for the > whole IDE. > I don't know if anybody wants, or needs, multilingual IDE. That would be > one question to discuss. The point ise not only how to distribute. Another > point is the completeness of the bundles. As far as I know, in the early > days there were 3 officially supported languages (Brazilian Portuguese, > Japanese, Russian, and Simplified Chinese) and more community contributed > bundles. The latter are less complete, but I'm not sure. Distributing > multilingual binaries of the IDE means keeping the translations up to date > and that's a lot of never ending work for lots of native speakers. > Boris > > Am Mo., 18. März 2019 um 05:43 Uhr schrieb Jaroslav Tulach < > jaroslav.tul...@gmail.com>: > > > Hello Boris, > > thanks for tackling this issue. > > > > Dne sobota 16. března 2019 15:18:20 CET, Boris Heithecker napsal(a): > > > Hi all, > > > I'm preparing a pull request now for the localisation bundles from the > > 3rd > > > donation. I've made only slight changes to build.xml found in the folder. > > > A once-existing build target for the multilingual edition has obviously > > > been discarded as long ago as in NetBeans 7.2, > > > > The L10N stuff would certainly need more love. It was an afterthought, > > mostly > > ignored (not needed) by developers of NetBeans. As such the scripts could > > get > > out of sync. For example the NetBeans 10 restructured its sources to per > > cluster layout - that may also influence the L10N stuff a lot and nobody > > (certainly not me) was thinking of the impact on L10N bits. > > > > > but there are work-arounds > > > to create a localised IDE, or localise a platform app. It mostly > > involves > > > manually copying and zipping, so it's simple. > > > > The goal should be to press F11 (type ant build) somewhere and have the > > changed JAR copied to the appropriate place. So, subsequent "ant tryme" > > uses > > the changes. > > > > > Everything else is critical > > > because it means interfering with the existing build tasks of the whole > > > platform. > > > > > > If desired, I'm ready write a short instruction on how the localisation > > > bundles can be used with the current sources. > > > > PR is #1 thing. Instructions #2. Then the discussion can start. > > > > From what I hear it seems we want to merge the L10N files into the main > > repository. Where? l10n subfolder? > > > > How do we want to build the localized bits? How do we want to distribute > > them? > > All the translations will be included in the source release. Should they > > all > > be included in the binary release? Should they be only available as NBMs, > > so > > users can download just L10N for their locale? > > > > Good luck getting Apache NetBeans L10Ned! > > -jt > > > > > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 11:59 Uhr schrieb Joerg Michelberger < > > > > > > j.michelber...@gmail.com>: > > > > Hi Boris, > > > > > > > > great to hear something about the localization stuff. > > > > > > > > For license changes there is a NB plugin > > > > http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/17960/license-changer > > > > > > > > I also have the need for at least german localization for my NB app > > and i > > > > can also test the bundles. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Joerg > > > > > > > > Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 11:37 Uhr schrieb Geertjan Wielenga > > > > > > > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid>: > > > > > Excellent work. Best is to fork this and provide a PR with the > > bundles > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > other changes: > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans > > > > > > > > > > License header changes could be done after that (or before, your > > call) > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > this: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-tools/tree/master/convert > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 11:15 AM Boris Heithecker < > > > > > boris.heithec...@gmx.net> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I was able to start a localized (german) version of NetBeans 10 > > with > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > current binaries available at netbeans.apache.org and the > > localisation > > > > > > extension build from the (slightly adapted) 3rd donation files and > > a > > > > > > current clone from the GitHub repo. It works. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please tell me, or give me a link on how to proceed further to > > > > > > > > integrate > > > > > > > > > > the bundles into the repo. > > > > > > > > > > > > The license headers of some 120000 files need to be replaced. I > > > > > > > > remember > > > > > > > > > > hearing about an automatation mechanism to do that. Is there any > > > > > > documentation available? > > > > > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Do., 14. März 2019 um 09:15 Uhr schrieb Geertjan Wielenga < > > > > > > > > > > > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>: > > > > > > > Yes, that link is the one to use, provides the translation > > bundles, > > > > > > > > > > among > > > > > > > > > > > > other things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 6:16 AM Emilian Bold < > > emilian.b...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > http://bits.netbeans.org/download/apache-donation/ApacheNetBeansDonation3. > > > > zip> > > > > > > >> I'm sure there's a corresponding URL on Apache infra but I can't > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > -- > Boris Heithecker > > > Dr. Boris Heithecker > Lüneburger Str. 30 > 28870 Ottersberg > Festnetz: +49 4205 315834 > Mobil: +49 170 6137015 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
