Re: Refactoring Create Order process during OFBiz Developers Conference Sponsored by Hotwax Media

[Tim Ruppert]

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On Jan 26, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Daniel Kunkel wrote:

I think I pretty much covered this in my other post, but I'll share the

few things I think could be done better.

1.) The original effort was submitted and not "lost" in the anals of
history even though it wasn't ready for prime time.

2.) You example worked because there were a small number of people
actively pushing something that happened rather fast, so the code did
not get too far out of date.

We also ensured that it didn't get out of date by updating our patches as things around them changed. And yes, it was a smaller group of people, so it was easier to manage.

3.) You apparently worked on the code one at a time, and/or worked
together er separately to avoid any patching nightmares.


on them piecemeal.

I'm not saying this the jira patch system doesn't work... I'm saying I think we could all benefit by creating a space for people to contribute developments that aren't ready where it would be easy for others to work

I definitely understand your pain here Daniel. I would just ask the people who have these aspirations to try the existing system and first see how many people you actually get on board before building infrastructure to manage additional TEAMS of developers.

I think back and wonder how many of the developers out there worked on

committed.

projects specific to one business or another that DID not share it back to the community because their efforts were not in a shape that could be

Cheers,
Tim

Having your code not be in shape enough to be committed probably never stopped anyone who really wanted their stuff to make it into the project :) Open source is great and it does often bring out the best and works in people - I've always just taken the constructive criticism of people who have a bit more experience in the project - and that's always worked for me.

Thanks

Daniel



On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 08:11 -0800, Adrian Crum wrote:

Thanks Tim! I suggested the same method some time ago. Personally, I like the

idea of using existing resources.


Tim's flow.

Simple.

-Adrian


Tim Ruppert wrote:

Just set up a Jira issue and make it clear in the initial comment that it's a "sandbox" - so everyone knows you're trying out ideas in that issue. Then follow

I know this sounds overly simplified, but someone please explain to me

why this doesn't work:

1. Someone - let's say Chris has a great idea for a new project
2. He creates a JIRA issue describing it
3. He attaches an initial patch

to this effort and downloads the patch

as adds another patch containing additional data
6. Chris downloads it and makes some mods and reposts.


process!


and address it.  A separately maintained sandbox is absolutely no
different  than managing patches - since both have to deal with
integration back into the OFBiz trunk in some form or fashion.


will allow you to make changes to existing code in an easier, more
trackable format.  The alternative would be for you to maintain a
sandbox - AND patches for updates to the source - doesn't that sound
MORE tedious?

Anyways, thanks for listening to my ramble.

Cheers,
Tim
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4. Someone else - let's say Daniel decides that he wants to contribute 5. He makes some improvements, so he updates the existing patch as well Now, to me this doesn't seem that crazy - and is totally legal. And . . . just so you know - replace Chris with Tim and Daniel with either Anil or Ashish and you have EXACTLY what happened with the anonymous checkout This shouldn't be this hard guys. My suggestion would be to TRY one of these in this format and if you can't do it this way - THEN let's try Personally, I think the patches will be EASIER to maintain because they

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