Hi Karl,

Thanks for the input. Anyway in the meantime if someone is interested he/her 
can always use your work with a
pre-framework-recent-changes version. Actually it may even work with framework 
changed, I did not test.

Thanks

Jacques

> Hi Jacques,
>
> it is nice to read that you like the approach and the documentation 
> (JIRA-1033).
> But I think I must disappoint you.
>
> Last year I could convince our management to invest
> a lot of time in ofbiz. In April 2007 I opened several
> well documented issues with patches. That time David wanted
> to review them or to find other ofbiz inner circle developers
> to do that. I think, he didn't find the time or what ever.
>
> Since then our company didn't update the ofbiz installation, so
> I just can't provide any newer patches.
> Maybe (I'm not sure) we're upgrading on a new ofbiz version
> in spring 2008.
>
> Current project situation doesn't allow me to do the
> work of last April again this time, sorry for that.
>
> Regards.
> Karl
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jacques Le Roux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Oktober 2007 15:32
> An: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: ofbiz sql
>
> Mmm, I'm suddenly wondering if we should not care about the changes recently 
> introduced throughout the framework.
>
> Karl could you please create a new patch using current trunk ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jacques
>
> > Hi Karl,
> >
> > I have just read you document, very interesting. I would like to integrate 
> > your work in OFBiz. It's well documented and a must
> when
> > it comes to optimise performances.
> > My primarily intention is hence to integrate not as a subsititure in any 
> > way (this is clearly explained in the documentation)
but
> as
> > an option when you need more SQL power and control.
> >
> > Of course everybody using it should be aware of the main limitation : no 
> > ECAs are fired !
> > Other limitations or warning are cleary underlined (I like icons you used 
> > like in a professionnal doc. ;o) in the documentation.
> >
> > If nobody complains I will commit in some days
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> >
> > De : "Eilebrecht, Karl (Key-Work)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > The issue "JIRA-1033 Ofbiz SQL Integration Features"
> > > might be interesting for your discussion.
> > >
> > > Maybe this is a basis for supporting multiple ways to solve common 
> > > problems
> > > (RDBMS *dependent* (much better to debug and optimize) vs. 
> > > RDBMS-independent "HQL-like").
> > >
> > > Remark: in 2005/06 we first tried to solve our query problems by heavily 
> > > using Dynamic View Entities. One major problem
(besides
> > the readability/optimize problems) with this approach was that all 
> > conditions (also "Join conditions") are applied to the WHERE
> > clause. Some databases react with bad performance on such SQL-statements, 
> > others "auto-optimize" them quietly. However, I think
> it's
> > a good idea (when reworking the entity engine) to enhance the ability to 
> > have join conditions as a part of the view entities'
> > "metadata".
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > > Karl
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Jonathon -- Improov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 22. Oktober 2007 05:30
> > > An: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
> > > Betreff: Re: ofbiz sql
> > >
> > > I've read a similar thread (and possibly responded to it).
> > >
> > > I vote for it. The point is to be able to programmatically generate 
> > > queries to the Entity Engine.
> > > Using raw SQL will of course be RDBMS-dependent. Using an OFBiz SQL 
> > > dialect will be RDBMS-independent.
> > >
> > > That's what little I remember from the thread I read and/or responded to.
> > >
> > > Jonathon
> > >
> > > Adam Heath wrote:
> > > > Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> > > >> Was not delegator methods thought to hide SQL code ? I think that 
> > > >> David meant to prune not to replace. In both case such a
> > changes
> > > >> implie
> > > >> major tedious refactoring. Though using deprecated concept it could be 
> > > >> carried on carefully in time...
> > > >
> > > > I don't think you understand.
> > > >
> > > > You wouldn't be writing sql to the raw jdbc.  You'd be writing an Ofbiz
> > > > sql dialect.  Ofbiz would then translate that on the fly to the correct
> > > > underlying form.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >       Besuchen Sie uns:
> > >
> > >     - Mail Order World in Wiesbaden vom 24.-25.10.2007
> > >       Halle 5, Stand 510
> > >       http://www.key-work.de/mow
> > >
> > >     - Effizienztag Mode/Modehandels-Kongress
> > >       in Düsseldorf vom 7.11.-8.11.2007, Stand 16
> > >       http://www.key-work.de/mhk
> > >
> > >     - IMB-Forum in Köln vom 21.-22.11.2007
> > >       Halle 08, Stand Boulevard Gang A Nr. 29
> > >       http://www.key-work.de/imb
> > >
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Karl Eilebrecht
> > > Key-Work Consulting GmbH
> > >
> > > Kriegsstr. 100 - 76133 Karlsruhe - Germany
> > > Fon: +49-721-78203-277 - Fax: +49-721-78203-10
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > Key-Work Consulting GmbH Karlsruhe, HRB 108695, HRG Mannheim
> > > Geschäftsführer: Andreas Stappert, Tobin Wotring
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>       Besuchen Sie uns:
>
>     - Effizienztag Mode/Modehandels-Kongress
>       in Düsseldorf vom 7.11.-8.11.2007, Stand 16
>       http://www.key-work.de/mhk
>
>     - IMB-Forum in Köln vom 21.-22.11.2007
>       Halle 08, Stand Boulevard Gang A Nr. 29
>       http://www.key-work.de/imb
>
>
>

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