Mmm, I'm suddenly wondering if we should not care about the changes recently 
introduced throughout the framework.

Karl could you please create a new patch using current trunk ?

Thanks in advance

Jacques

> Hi Karl,
>
> I have just read you document, very interesting. I would like to integrate 
> your work in OFBiz. It's well documented and a must
when
> it comes to optimise performances.
> My primarily intention is hence to integrate not as a subsititure in any way 
> (this is clearly explained in the documentation) but
as
> an option when you need more SQL power and control.
>
> Of course everybody using it should be aware of the main limitation : no ECAs 
> are fired !
> Other limitations or warning are cleary underlined (I like icons you used 
> like in a professionnal doc. ;o) in the documentation.
>
> If nobody complains I will commit in some days
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
>
> De : "Eilebrecht, Karl (Key-Work)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > The issue "JIRA-1033 Ofbiz SQL Integration Features"
> > might be interesting for your discussion.
> >
> > Maybe this is a basis for supporting multiple ways to solve common problems
> > (RDBMS *dependent* (much better to debug and optimize) vs. 
> > RDBMS-independent "HQL-like").
> >
> > Remark: in 2005/06 we first tried to solve our query problems by heavily 
> > using Dynamic View Entities. One major problem (besides
> the readability/optimize problems) with this approach was that all conditions 
> (also "Join conditions") are applied to the WHERE
> clause. Some databases react with bad performance on such SQL-statements, 
> others "auto-optimize" them quietly. However, I think
it's
> a good idea (when reworking the entity engine) to enhance the ability to have 
> join conditions as a part of the view entities'
> "metadata".
> >
> > Regards.
> > Karl
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Jonathon -- Improov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Gesendet: Montag, 22. Oktober 2007 05:30
> > An: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: ofbiz sql
> >
> > I've read a similar thread (and possibly responded to it).
> >
> > I vote for it. The point is to be able to programmatically generate queries 
> > to the Entity Engine.
> > Using raw SQL will of course be RDBMS-dependent. Using an OFBiz SQL dialect 
> > will be RDBMS-independent.
> >
> > That's what little I remember from the thread I read and/or responded to.
> >
> > Jonathon
> >
> > Adam Heath wrote:
> > > Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> > >> Was not delegator methods thought to hide SQL code ? I think that David 
> > >> meant to prune not to replace. In both case such a
> changes
> > >> implie
> > >> major tedious refactoring. Though using deprecated concept it could be 
> > >> carried on carefully in time...
> > >
> > > I don't think you understand.
> > >
> > > You wouldn't be writing sql to the raw jdbc.  You'd be writing an Ofbiz
> > > sql dialect.  Ofbiz would then translate that on the fly to the correct
> > > underlying form.
> > >
> > >
> >
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