Jacopo I can help with this. My experience is in Java and general accounting stuff having already implemented this fully in another language. However, I need to get A/R and EOQ Purchasing finished before I will have any time to give to it which I suspect will be around the first of the year. I'm a nub with widgets (although I don't find it hard).
I have some strong feelings about how Si has done this though. My primary concern is that some organizations prefer to post to the G/L in real time and others prefer to do batch review/post. I hope we can do something like have a property or PartyAcctPreference that flips the switch. I would only like to be involved if we can agree to spend the time to do user-friendly, intuitive screens. I have zero understanding of the needs of European accounting requirements (if they are different) and the differences with U.S. ones. Skip -----Original Message----- From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta Hi Jim, (and others interested in helping with the implementation of the accounting component) can I add you to the list of "people interested" in this page: http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/New+Features+Roadmap+-+Draft ? If you (or others in this list) are willing to help with the implementation I will do my best to help to organize the work in the community (and also implement something). The main question to the ones interested are: - are there specific tasks you would like to work on? - if not, we can help to assign/distribute tasks, but it would be useful to know what is your area of expertise: tech (Java, minilang, screen/form widgets, etc...) or business (OFBiz data model, existing services, general AR/AP...) I've recently (yesterday and the day before it) I've cleaned up some stuff in the accounting component (and implemented some new screens) and now I have a clearer view of what is already available and what needs to be done: now I'm sure that we can relatively quickly implement some good stuff here with your help, so guys don't be shy!!! Jacopo Jim Barrows wrote: > Ok, so we still want to build this.. only better :) > > On Nov 20, 2007 5:12 PM, David E Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That is very old, and a lot has changed since then, including what >> happened to this code base. All of the lower level stuff including the >> data structures and GL posting services are part of OFBiz, but the >> higher level things such as reports and automated posting mapping >> services (from things like invoices, payments, inventory changes, etc) >> are all part of the HPL licensed financials component from Open Source >> Strategies, part of the opentaps distribution (semi-fork these days, >> lots of stuff implemented that doesn't go back into OFBiz). >> >> For more information you should see their site at >> opensourcestrategies.com. The HPL (Honest Public License) is a not an >> OSI approved license and has some rather unpleasant terms in it, the >> goal being to force contributions or purchase of a commercial license >> (just like pretty much all "open source" companies that dual license, >> usually with GPL though). The main thing with HPL is that if you make >> it available over the internet it explicitly states that this is >> public distribution of the software (for more details see the license >> itself). >> >> In any case, that is why you're seeing discussion of implementing >> these things even though there is an OFBiz add-on that has them, and >> hence all of the references to another project that is licensed in >> terms that make it hard to build a community around, and that can't be >> included with OFBiz, etc. >> >> -David >> >> >> >> On Nov 20, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Jim Barrows wrote: >> >>> So what is the status? Do we have to pay for it? Is it done? i >>> would think that in 2 years it would've gotten done by now. >>> >>> On Nov 20, 2007 4:48 PM, BJ Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Here is and update from couple of years ago. >>>> previously there was discussion about the frame work of this. >>>> if I did all these out, is there a place on the documentation site we >>>> can put them to save a lot of re discussion. >>>> >>>> David E. Jones sent the following on 9/23/2005 4:16 PM: >>>>> Update: Accounting/GL Now in Beta Testing >>>>> >>>>> The Open For Business Accounting and General Ledger (GL) >>>>> application is >>>>> now moving into beta testing. Currently, it can support the >>>>> accounting >>>>> needs of most product-retail businesses that use Open For Business, >>>>> including: >>>>> >>>>> * Support for multiple organizations and multiple currencies >>>>> * Setting up chart of accounts with unlimited depth >>>>> * General Ledger posting for most key business processes >>>>> * Financial reports including trial balance, income statements, >>>>> and >>>>> balance sheets >>>>> * Screens to create and manage both Accounts Receivable (AR) and >>>>> Accounts Payable (AP) invoices and payments >>>>> * Screens for managing tax liabilities across multiple >>>>> jurisdictions >>>>> * Administrative features such as periodic closings >>>>> * Flexible entry and maintenance of payments and invoice >>>>> (including >>>>> application payments to invoices, etc) >>>>> * Export to outside accounting applications (QBXML for >>>>> QuickBooks is >>>>> included) >>>>> >>>>> This application is fully integrated with the rest of OFBiz, >>>>> including >>>>> ecommerce, Point Of Sales, order manager, and facilities >>>>> manager. It >>>>> drops into your hot-deploy/ directory and runs right away. If >>>>> you need >>>>> other accounting-related features, such as payroll, it is fairly >>>>> easy >>>>> to develop a plug in for it. >>>>> >>>>> If you would like to learn more about the GL application, there is a >>>>> video from the St. Louis Users' Conference >>>>> (http://www.ofbiz.org/VideosConf.html) and an online demo >>>>> (http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/demos.php). >>>>> >>>>> How to Make it Open Source >>>>> >>>>> The Accounting and General Ledger is developed under a community >>>>> funding >>>>> model. The idea is to get community funding to help cover the cost >>>>> of >>>>> developing a large, complex application. We think this is a very >>>>> fair >>>>> user-driven model because it can produce open source software with >>>>> either a large number of small contributors or a small number of >>>>> larger >>>>> contributors. As an added incentive, those who contribute over >>>>> $3,000 >>>>> can begin to use the application immediately and benefit from all >>>>> its >>>>> features for a fraction of the cost of in-house development. >>>>> >>>>> We've currently received sponsorship for about half the development >>>>> costs ($26,000 out of about $50,000) and require another $24,000 to >>>>> reach our goal and release it under an open source license. This >>>>> means >>>>> that we can get there with just eight user-contributors with >>>>> $3,000 each >>>>> or, alternatively, a hundred contributors of under $250 each. >>>>> >>>>> -Si Chen >>>>> -David E. Jones >>>>> >>>>> P.S. Special thanks to all who have contributed labor and funds to >>>>> this >>>>> effort, including: Open Source Strategies, Undersun Consulting, Ant >>>>> Websystems, Masterfile Corp, and others. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Users mailing list >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >>> >>> -- >>> James A Barrows >> > > >
