Hi Jim, (and others interested in helping with the implementation of the
accounting component)
can I add you to the list of "people interested" in this page:
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/New+Features+Roadmap+-+Draft
?
If you (or others in this list) are willing to help with the
implementation I will do my best to help to organize the work in the
community (and also implement something).
The main question to the ones interested are:
- are there specific tasks you would like to work on?
- if not, we can help to assign/distribute tasks, but it would be useful
to know what is your area of expertise: tech (Java, minilang,
screen/form widgets, etc...) or business (OFBiz data model, existing
services, general AR/AP...)
I've recently (yesterday and the day before it) I've cleaned up some
stuff in the accounting component (and implemented some new screens) and
now I have a clearer view of what is already available and what needs to
be done: now I'm sure that we can relatively quickly implement some good
stuff here with your help, so guys don't be shy!!!
Jacopo
Jim Barrows wrote:
Ok, so we still want to build this.. only better :)
On Nov 20, 2007 5:12 PM, David E Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That is very old, and a lot has changed since then, including what
happened to this code base. All of the lower level stuff including the
data structures and GL posting services are part of OFBiz, but the
higher level things such as reports and automated posting mapping
services (from things like invoices, payments, inventory changes, etc)
are all part of the HPL licensed financials component from Open Source
Strategies, part of the opentaps distribution (semi-fork these days,
lots of stuff implemented that doesn't go back into OFBiz).
For more information you should see their site at
opensourcestrategies.com. The HPL (Honest Public License) is a not an
OSI approved license and has some rather unpleasant terms in it, the
goal being to force contributions or purchase of a commercial license
(just like pretty much all "open source" companies that dual license,
usually with GPL though). The main thing with HPL is that if you make
it available over the internet it explicitly states that this is
public distribution of the software (for more details see the license
itself).
In any case, that is why you're seeing discussion of implementing
these things even though there is an OFBiz add-on that has them, and
hence all of the references to another project that is licensed in
terms that make it hard to build a community around, and that can't be
included with OFBiz, etc.
-David
On Nov 20, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Jim Barrows wrote:
So what is the status? Do we have to pay for it? Is it done? i
would think that in 2 years it would've gotten done by now.
On Nov 20, 2007 4:48 PM, BJ Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Here is and update from couple of years ago.
previously there was discussion about the frame work of this.
if I did all these out, is there a place on the documentation site we
can put them to save a lot of re discussion.
David E. Jones sent the following on 9/23/2005 4:16 PM:
Update: Accounting/GL Now in Beta Testing
The Open For Business Accounting and General Ledger (GL)
application is
now moving into beta testing. Currently, it can support the
accounting
needs of most product-retail businesses that use Open For Business,
including:
* Support for multiple organizations and multiple currencies
* Setting up chart of accounts with unlimited depth
* General Ledger posting for most key business processes
* Financial reports including trial balance, income statements,
and
balance sheets
* Screens to create and manage both Accounts Receivable (AR) and
Accounts Payable (AP) invoices and payments
* Screens for managing tax liabilities across multiple
jurisdictions
* Administrative features such as periodic closings
* Flexible entry and maintenance of payments and invoice
(including
application payments to invoices, etc)
* Export to outside accounting applications (QBXML for
QuickBooks is
included)
This application is fully integrated with the rest of OFBiz,
including
ecommerce, Point Of Sales, order manager, and facilities
manager. It
drops into your hot-deploy/ directory and runs right away. If
you need
other accounting-related features, such as payroll, it is fairly
easy
to develop a plug in for it.
If you would like to learn more about the GL application, there is a
video from the St. Louis Users' Conference
(http://www.ofbiz.org/VideosConf.html) and an online demo
(http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/demos.php).
How to Make it Open Source
The Accounting and General Ledger is developed under a community
funding
model. The idea is to get community funding to help cover the cost
of
developing a large, complex application. We think this is a very
fair
user-driven model because it can produce open source software with
either a large number of small contributors or a small number of
larger
contributors. As an added incentive, those who contribute over
$3,000
can begin to use the application immediately and benefit from all
its
features for a fraction of the cost of in-house development.
We've currently received sponsorship for about half the development
costs ($26,000 out of about $50,000) and require another $24,000 to
reach our goal and release it under an open source license. This
means
that we can get there with just eight user-contributors with
$3,000 each
or, alternatively, a hundred contributors of under $250 each.
-Si Chen
-David E. Jones
P.S. Special thanks to all who have contributed labor and funds to
this
effort, including: Open Source Strategies, Undersun Consulting, Ant
Websystems, Masterfile Corp, and others.
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