Hi Taher,

The reason of putting released version (e.g. 16.11.03) in start.properties file 
is because the start program is already reading that file and that info will be 
included in the startup message. Printing released version to the console is in 
line with what other applications, like Tomcat, have been doing.

I haven't check how the start program will read the VERSION file but I have no 
issue with this approach and we can further discuss how it can be done.

Regards,
James Yong  

On 2017-11-29 02:51, Taher Alkhateeb <slidingfilame...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Hi James,
> 
> I'm not sure of the purpose of doing all of that? start.properties is
> a file to feed into Config.java which in turn configures the startup
> settings of OFBiz. The version has nothing with the startup code so it
> seems like an improper place to put the property and maybe it might
> confuse users.
> 
> Also, why go through all this logic? why not simply create a VERSION
> file and place the version in it? Much simpler and easier if all you
> need is a version reference. Unless you want to introduce some logic?
> 
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 6:04 PM, James Yong <jamesy...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If there is no further discusson, I will create a JIRA issue later to
> > 1) add an ofbiz.version key in start.properties file; and
> > 2) have the ofbiz.version key value included in the startup message.
> >
> > Regards,
> > James Yong
> >
> > On 2017-11-28 01:35, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> >> OK then if we have both, why not?
> >>
> >> Jacques
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 27/11/2017 à 17:15, James Yong a écrit :
> >> > Hi Jacques,
> >> >
> >> > The developer can refer to the proposed ofbiz.version property if needed.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > James Yong
> >> >
> >> > On 2017-11-28 00:03, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Hi James,
> >> >>
> >> >> That's good when you start but could be hard to find after many days 
> >> >> running in production for instance
> >> >>
> >> >> Jacques
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Le 27/11/2017 à 15:43, James Yong a écrit :
> >> >>> Hi all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> How about hardcoding the released version in start.properties?
> >> >>> E.g.
> >> >>> ofbiz.version=v16.11.03
> >> >>>
> >> >>> During startup, we can print out the version as part of the startup 
> >> >>> message like:
> >> >>>      ____  __________  _
> >> >>>     / __ \/ ____/ __ )(_)___
> >> >>>    / / / / /_  / __  / /_  /
> >> >>> / /_/ / __/ / /_/ / / / /_
> >> >>> \____/_/   /_____/_/ /___/  v16.11.03 is started and ready.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Just update the released version in the properties before a release.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >>> James Yong
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 2017-11-27 22:08, Akash Jain <akash.j...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> +1, version information should available somewhere, it will be 
> >> >>>> helpful.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thanks and Regards
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Akash Jain
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Sharan Foga <sha...@apache.org> 
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Hi
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Having the version info available somehow could be useful. Whenever 
> >> >>>>> a user
> >> >>>>> reports a problem on our user lists, one of the first questions we 
> >> >>>>> ask them
> >> >>>>> is "What version are you using?"
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Perhaps asking the question about version information, on the user 
> >> >>>>> list
> >> >>>>> might help.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Thanks
> >> >>>>> Sharan
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On 2017-11-27 08:49, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Hi Devanshu Vyas,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Please see inline.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Best regards,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Pierre Smits
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >> >>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> OEM - The OFBiz Extensions Marketplace1
> >> >>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >> >>>>>> 1 not affiliated to (and not endorsed by) the OFBiz project
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Devanshu Vyas <
> >> >>>>> vyas.devansh...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Thank you all for your thoughts on this.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I really like the idea shared by Taher to create a version file 
> >> >>>>>>> using
> >> >>>>>>> target and after second thought I agree that it can be a tiresome 
> >> >>>>>>> task
> >> >>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>> update version info manually with each release.
> >> >>>>>>> But before we conclude this discussion, I would like to share 
> >> >>>>>>> another
> >> >>>>>>> thought with you. I think we can add OFBiz version info in the
> >> >>>>> licensing
> >> >>>>>>> information we add to our files.
> >> >>>>>>> I know it will be a manual task, but can be easily done with a 
> >> >>>>>>> simple
> >> >>>>> Find
> >> >>>>>>> & Replace.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I am happy to work on the whichever implementation we decide
> >> >>>>> here(hoping I
> >> >>>>>>> am not stepping on anyone's toes).
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Don't worry. I bet you aren't. ;)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> And my reason to raise the concern was that it is very difficult to
> >> >>>>>>> identify which version of code a user is using(a real-time scenario
> >> >>>>> where I
> >> >>>>>>> was exposed to OFBiz code and I couldn't perform anything on it. So
> >> >>>>> just by
> >> >>>>>>> looking at it, I was unable to determine what version it was)
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> So you experienced a user being exposed to a OOTB OFBiz deployment,
> >> >>>>>> deployed by your employer HotWax? Or was the user exposed to a 
> >> >>>>>> deployment
> >> >>>>>> that was also modified? In either case this is an issue related to 
> >> >>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>> Release Management process applied. And not necessarily an OFBIZ 
> >> >>>>>> problem.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Waiting for your replies!!
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
> >> >>>>>>> Devanshu Vyas.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> 

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