Hi James,

The purpose of Config.java is to configure critical server settings at
startup such as log location, admin settings, etc. These settings could be
also used in test.properties and load-data.properties and all such
properties get a default value if not set.

OFBiz version by definition is not a startup parameter. It is not something
you need to set so that the system works correctly. It's only a piece of
information. That is why I suggested that it might not be a good fit for
start.properties and Config.java. It's also hard for users to find the
version if it is hidden somewhere like that. And given the nature of
verbose logging in OFBiz I suspect that it might not be very useful to spit
out OFBiz version in the logs because it will be lost in the mix.

So if I may suggest maybe there are a few alternatives that could work like:
- adding it to another properties file like general.properties (although
still a bit hidden yet more related than start.properties)
- adding it to the UiLabelMap and putting it in the footer of the system
- putting it in a VERSION file or README.md as originally suggested

I'm sure you can also come up with good ideas to that end, I'm just
thinking quickly of alternatives that might fit.

On Nov 29, 2017 2:30 AM, "James Yong" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Taher,

The reason of putting released version (e.g. 16.11.03) in start.properties
file is because the start program is already reading that file and that
info will be included in the startup message. Printing released version to
the console is in line with what other applications, like Tomcat, have been
doing.

I haven't check how the start program will read the VERSION file but I have
no issue with this approach and we can further discuss how it can be done.

Regards,
James Yong

On 2017-11-29 02:51, Taher Alkhateeb <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> I'm not sure of the purpose of doing all of that? start.properties is
> a file to feed into Config.java which in turn configures the startup
> settings of OFBiz. The version has nothing with the startup code so it
> seems like an improper place to put the property and maybe it might
> confuse users.
>
> Also, why go through all this logic? why not simply create a VERSION
> file and place the version in it? Much simpler and easier if all you
> need is a version reference. Unless you want to introduce some logic?
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 6:04 PM, James Yong <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If there is no further discusson, I will create a JIRA issue later to
> > 1) add an ofbiz.version key in start.properties file; and
> > 2) have the ofbiz.version key value included in the startup message.
> >
> > Regards,
> > James Yong
> >
> > On 2017-11-28 01:35, Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >> OK then if we have both, why not?
> >>
> >> Jacques
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 27/11/2017 à 17:15, James Yong a écrit :
> >> > Hi Jacques,
> >> >
> >> > The developer can refer to the proposed ofbiz.version property if
needed.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > James Yong
> >> >
> >> > On 2017-11-28 00:03, Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >> >> Hi James,
> >> >>
> >> >> That's good when you start but could be hard to find after many
days running in production for instance
> >> >>
> >> >> Jacques
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Le 27/11/2017 à 15:43, James Yong a écrit :
> >> >>> Hi all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> How about hardcoding the released version in start.properties?
> >> >>> E.g.
> >> >>> ofbiz.version=v16.11.03
> >> >>>
> >> >>> During startup, we can print out the version as part of the
startup message like:
> >> >>>      ____  __________  _
> >> >>>     / __ \/ ____/ __ )(_)___
> >> >>>    / / / / /_  / __  / /_  /
> >> >>> / /_/ / __/ / /_/ / / / /_
> >> >>> \____/_/   /_____/_/ /___/  v16.11.03 is started and ready.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Just update the released version in the properties before a
release.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >>> James Yong
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 2017-11-27 22:08, Akash Jain <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >> >>>> +1, version information should available somewhere, it will be
helpful.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thanks and Regards
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Akash Jain
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Sharan Foga <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Hi
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Having the version info available somehow could be useful.
Whenever a user
> >> >>>>> reports a problem on our user lists, one of the first questions
we ask them
> >> >>>>> is "What version are you using?"
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Perhaps asking the question about version information, on the
user list
> >> >>>>> might help.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Thanks
> >> >>>>> Sharan
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On 2017-11-27 08:49, Pierre Smits <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Hi Devanshu Vyas,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Please see inline.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Best regards,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Pierre Smits
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >> >>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> OEM - The OFBiz Extensions Marketplace1
> >> >>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >> >>>>>> 1 not affiliated to (and not endorsed by) the OFBiz project
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Devanshu Vyas <
> >> >>>>> [email protected]>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Thank you all for your thoughts on this.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I really like the idea shared by Taher to create a version
file using
> >> >>>>>>> target and after second thought I agree that it can be a
tiresome task
> >> >>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>> update version info manually with each release.
> >> >>>>>>> But before we conclude this discussion, I would like to share
another
> >> >>>>>>> thought with you. I think we can add OFBiz version info in the
> >> >>>>> licensing
> >> >>>>>>> information we add to our files.
> >> >>>>>>> I know it will be a manual task, but can be easily done with a
simple
> >> >>>>> Find
> >> >>>>>>> & Replace.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I am happy to work on the whichever implementation we decide
> >> >>>>> here(hoping I
> >> >>>>>>> am not stepping on anyone's toes).
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Don't worry. I bet you aren't. ;)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> And my reason to raise the concern was that it is very
difficult to
> >> >>>>>>> identify which version of code a user is using(a real-time
scenario
> >> >>>>> where I
> >> >>>>>>> was exposed to OFBiz code and I couldn't perform anything on
it. So
> >> >>>>> just by
> >> >>>>>>> looking at it, I was unable to determine what version it was)
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> So you experienced a user being exposed to a OOTB OFBiz
deployment,
> >> >>>>>> deployed by your employer HotWax? Or was the user exposed to a
deployment
> >> >>>>>> that was also modified? In either case this is an issue related
to the
> >> >>>>>> Release Management process applied. And not necessarily an
OFBIZ problem.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Waiting for your replies!!
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
> >> >>>>>>> Devanshu Vyas.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>

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