Thank you very much Pierre for this clarification,

It remembers me when the checkbox for the same in Jira was removed.

Jacques

Le 29/01/2020 à 10:59, Pierre Smits a écrit :
According to the ASF there is no legal issue with the status of the
contribution provided by a contributor without an ICLA.

In the license [1] it is stated that:

Unless You explicitly state otherwise, any Contribution intentionally
submitted for inclusion in the Work by You to the Licensor shall be under
the terms and conditions of this License, without any additional terms or
conditions.


Furthermore, in LEGAL-156 it is stated that PRs of non-privileged
contributors can be accepted, see [2]

Even one of the founders of the ASF has stated (see [3]):

that opinion comes from me speaking as a board member and
author of the Apache License, and has previously been cleared with Apache's
legal team for a long ago discussion with Incubator. We don't need a CLA on
file to accept contributions from non-committers. We just need a clear
intent by the author to contribute under our normal terms.


Though we desire our non-privileged contributors to submit an ICLA, it is
not a requirement (see [4]). When we started the discussion on that subject
the intent was:

    1.  enable non-privileged contributors to express that they were willing
    to do more, and
    2. for the project to be able to recognise those contributors more easy,
    and facilitate the onboarding process



[1] https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
[2]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-156?focusedCommentId=13554864&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-13554864
[3]
https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-infrastructure-dev/201112.mbox/%3ca603ffce-623b-43e9-87f8-39baa51c7...@gbiv.com%3E
[4]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Contributors


Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
*Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
*Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
since 2008*
Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer


On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:44 AM Nicolas Malin <nicolas.ma...@nereide.fr>
wrote:

Hello

On 29/01/2020 07:58, Michael Brohl wrote:
Not sure if we necessarily have to deprecate the patch based
contributions. It could be a simpler way for contributors to provide a
change, especially if they are not developers and/or familiar with the
pull request mechanisms. Maybe the patch based way becomes obsolete
naturally but I would not force it.

We should work out a simple, documented way how to do it with PR's and
encourage contributors to use it, including using proper commit
statements following our template to prevent doing correctional work
on the committers site.
I have no strong opinion for path or PR, all seem good for me. But for
PR if the author is the contributer and not the commiter, I have a doubt
about the legal status and the ICLA [1].

   >      The purpose of this agreement is to clearly define the terms
under which intellectual property
   >  has been contributed to the ASF and thereby allow us to defend the
project should there be a
   >  legal dispute regarding the software at some future time. A signed
ICLA is required to be on file
   >  before an individual is given commit rights to any ASF project.

Personally I have a preference to cherry-pick all commits and squash
them and unique commit  with proper commit message

Nicolas

[1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html#clas


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