Thanks Michael, Benjamin,
I'll already handle the easy cases and let "master" for now. I'll maybe do a cursory review to see if there are no problematic contexts. If course any
help is welcome...
TIA
Jacques
Le 01/02/2021 à 14:15, Michael Brohl a écrit :
Do people really get offended or scared away if they read the word "master" in a harmless context like "master document" or "master revision"? Hard
to believe for me but you are right that I am not concerned.
Maybe we should better hear what concerned people have to say.
Technically, getting rid of the word will definetely not be a simple search-replace activity if you look closely... The word has many meanings and
you need to change it with regard to the context it is used with.
Furthermore, a lot of findings are in context with fop (<fo:simple-page-master master-name="back-first" ... ), which has to be changed before we can
change anything there.
Thanks,
Michael
Am 01.02.21 um 08:59 schrieb Benjamin Jugl:
Hi,
I would advise to review. Sure the word "master" has many meanings, but we are not talking meaning, we are talking connotation here. And it is not
our place to say if we find it offensive, because we are not in any position to do so.
As many US companies do this shift, I think we should also do so. They should know best, because they are closer to the issue and have more insight
into connotation and the rest of the debate, than us.
After all it should only take a mindfully overlooked search-replace routine, to complete this task. And it would be a shame, if we scared of users,
just because we were to reluctant to do so.
Benjamin Jugl
ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de <http://www.ecomify.de>
Am 30.01.21 um 20:36 schrieb Michael Brohl:
Hi Jacques,
if not used in a context with 'slave', I don't see any problem using the word
'master'.
It's word with many different meanings in English and I do not see any sense in
changing all occurences per se.
Michael Brohl
ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de
Am 30.01.21 um 10:52 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
Hi,
After a discussion between ASF members, I saw that an effort has been done by Infra, and I guess in some TLPs, to replace some connoted words
like blacklist and whitelist.
We have not much occurrences of these words, so I suggest that we replace blacklist and whitelist list respectively by denylist and allowlist as
suggested by
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/51088/alternative-terms-to-blacklist-and-whitelist#answer-51104
There is also this article:
https://developer-tech.com/news/2020/jun/15/github-replace-slavery-terms-master-whitelist/
We have only 1 occurrence of slave in our own code, that would be easy. For
master it's more annoying 1771 occurrences, so that would need a review.
What do you think?
Jacques