Hi Tim:
Where does the specification say that the existing OFBiz implementation is wrong? Where does it say that a CC and/or BCC of an email should be sent using a separate "connection"?

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Ruth
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Tim Ruppert wrote:
The email behavior is wrong by the simple specification of the way that the messages are supposed to be sent - this shouldn't even be disputed.
We need to fix out email sender to work the same way that email is supposed to 
work - we can do whatever we want to with the CSR application - but this is a 
no brainer and needs to be put into the project ASAP.

Cheers,
Ruppert
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On Dec 25, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

Hi Pranay:
Perhaps you should change the way the CSR application works instead of changing 
the email behavior? Maybe you could add some status indicators and status event 
notifications (using a separate email) in the CSR application to track the 
success or failure of an email notification. After all, that is why OFBiz keeps 
track of email events and the status thereof, isn't it?

Regards,
Ruth
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Pranay Pandey wrote:
Hi Ruth,

Thanks for looking into it and replying.
I imagine a case where customer is asking for the status of his order to 
Company CSR as he was successful in placing an order from ecommerce application 
with a wrong email address, which was syntactically correct. But company didn't 
receive any email because of email sending failure. I accept that there is a 
way for CSR to go to the order manager and  find the appropriate order but 
usually CSR or Company executive logs in to the order manager only when they 
receive an email for an order. Also the general behavior of mail client.

Also think of an organization where they don't want to login to the back office 
application and they manage their order in other systems based on the order 
email notifications. Then the only way to know about any order placed is the 
email notification that company receives as a BCC receiver.

There may be other ways of handling this or as you said this can be a 
configuration setting. I would love to hear community opinion on this.

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Ruth Hoffman wrote:
But, I would think in the normal business setting, if the original failed for 
some reason, you would not want to sent the BCC. Why send a copy if the 
original failed?
Ruth
Pranay Pandey (JIRA) wrote:
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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3379?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
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Pranay Pandey updated OFBIZ-3379:
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   Attachment: OFBIZ-3379.patch

Here is the patch for review.


Email sending process using one connection for To/CC/BCC causing issues
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               Key: OFBIZ-3379
               URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3379
           Project: OFBiz
        Issue Type: Bug
        Components: framework
  Affects Versions: Release Branch 9.04, SVN trunk
          Reporter: Pranay Pandey
           Fix For: Release Branch 9.04, SVN trunk

       Attachments: OFBIZ-3379.patch


Typically BCCs are handled via the sending mail client. That is, when the 
client sees a BCC in an email, it will open up two connections to the mail 
server, the first for the To/CC fields, the second for BCC fields, this way the 
addresses are masked from the headers and there is that layer of anonymity that 
BCC is used for.
What appears to be happening is that OFBiz is sending all of the information in 
one connection to the mail server and having the mail server sort out the 
details. So when sendTo encountering an invalid email, and then terminating the 
remaining execution of the outgoing process and no email sent to BCC address 
which is usually going to be a valid address from email settings for the 
company.
The fix the issue, we need to send this via two connection to mail client.

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