Hi Jacques, On Mar 7, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Also I wonder if we should not restrict the New section at > http://ofbiz.apache.org/ to real news and not service providers marketing. Could you please show some examples of news items that should not be there? Jacopo > Because this is really devaluating the news IMO. We could though introduce a > new section for this kind of "news", what about "Services providers help you" > > Jacques > > From: "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> >> Hey guys, >> >> This could be so easy :/ >> >> Hans agreed to give the credentials to all commiters but he asked us to send >> him a demand. >> We don't need to ask, if it's open Hans sould send all commiters the >> credential to share apache_ofbiz Twitter account. >> I should be pretty clear at this moment. The works "Apache" "OFBiz" and the >> phrase "Apache OFBiz" are ASF trademarks: >> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ (I use references to sections of >> this page in the following) >> So they can't be used in domain name (cf. section "Using Apache trademarks >> in domain names"). Hans can't use http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz alone as >> an individual or for his company. >> So please, for the last time, Hans before I ring Shane Curcuru's bell >> (current VP, Apache Brand Management), simply send credentials to all >> commiters and the war is over (Note that, though I don't think it's the way >> to go, I already asked you to send me credentials as you suggested, but did >> not receive anything yet). Then I suggest to put the button like you did >> Hans. It's a *great idea* and I'm sure you will appreciate to have an help >> on feeding the tweets as you already suggested. >> >> http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz is a special case because not only it uses >> ASF trademark in domain name but it also shows it on the page, along with >> OFBiz logo not going back to http://ofbiz.apache.org/ (cf. section "Using >> the Apache Foo (and similar) graphic logos") >> But I don't see a reason why the rule for the domain should not apply also to >> http://twitter.com/ofbiz_help >> http://twitter.com/ofbizbyhotwax >> And Hans just followed the path actually... (is there other cases?) >> >> Some other points which are related and worth to be noted >> Hotwax Media must care about how they use the OFBiz logo in their pages at >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com. The rule is that if it's not adapted (like Hans >> did for OFBiz in Thailand at , it should only link back to >> http://ofbiz.apache.org/ >> Same for the footer of http://www.antwebsystems.com/control/main (the "OFBiz >> feather" used for the tweet could be ok if all commiters get credentials and >> the PMC agree is the OFBiz official Tweeter account). Now >> http://www.ofbiz.in.th/ is wrong also as long it's not on the ASF infra >> (ofbiz should not be used in domain name outsided of ASF infrastructure, is >> there other cases?) >> >> It's time to clean the house, before all this becomes unmanageable >> (proliferation). I made my best to explain the rules, if you see a flaw in >> my reasoning please correct me. If you see other cases that should be >> corrected, chime in, it's your duty! >> >> And please also understand that it's really not pleaseant for me (or anyone >> else I guess) to play the cop and spend so much time on this (for persons >> out of PMC, we already shared some about this privately). I dot it only >> because I'm a third party (ie not HWM affiliated nor Ant Web) and I like >> things to be clear and no injustices prevail. If we continue to ignore this >> facts they will finally blow up in our faces (as this Tweeter account issue >> being to show) and nobody will win anything. There are rules, why not simply >> follow them, is that so hard? >> >> Jacques >> >> >> From: "Tim Ruppert" <tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com> >>> Hans, please revert this one too - sorry. It wouldn't make sense for all >>> service providers to do this - so please let's not keep doing this stuff. >>> >>> What i would recommend for this kind of stuff, if we need to list it at >>> all, would be to enhance the service providers page on the wiki. I >>> mentioned this earlier but maybe we should add a full page, linked from >>> the service provider page, where people can put this type of info? I >>> personally think this is what your own website is for, but I'm all for >>> enhancing everyone's ability to get the word out. >>> >>> What does everyone think of that as a place to promote yourself? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ruppert >>> -- >>> Tim Ruppert >>> HotWax Media >>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>> >>> o:801.649.6594 >>> f:801.649.6595 >>> >>> On Mar 6, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Scott Gray <scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm only going to send one email about this, If anyone else cares they >>>> can push it. >>>> >>>> This is news: >>>>> <a href="http://www.twitter.com/apache_ofbiz/"; target="_blank">Now OFBiz >>>>> on <b>TWITTER</b>, follow the news from an enduser perspective</a>, up to >>>>> one tweet per day. >>>> A link to your home page is not: >>>>> You can also promote OFBiz at your site with this news, look <a >>>>> href="http://www.antwebsystems.com";>here for an example.</a> >>>> >>>> Why you are constantly trying to push the boundaries I have no idea. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 6/03/2010, at 6:14 PM, hans...@apache.org wrote: >>>> >>>>> Author: hansbak >>>>> Date: Sun Mar 7 01:14:19 2010 >>>>> New Revision: 919905 >>>>> >>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=919905&view=rev >>>>> Log: >>>>> announcing the ofbiz twitter news now in line with the other news >>>>> offerings. >>>>> >>>>> Modified: >>>>> ofbiz/site/index.html >>>>> >>>>> Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html >>>>> URL: >>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=919905&r1=919904&r2=919905&view=diff >>>>> === === === >>>>> ===================================================================== >>>>> --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original) >>>>> +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Sun Mar 7 01:14:19 2010 >>>>> @@ -237,6 +237,7 @@ >>>>> >>>>> <h2>In the News</h2> >>>>> <ul> >>>>> + <li><a href="http://www.twitter.com/ apache_ofbiz/" >>>>> target="_blank">Now OFBiz on <b>TWITTER</b>, follow the news from an >>>>> enduser perspective</a>, up to one tweet per day. You can also promote >>>>> OFBiz at your site with this news, look <a >>>>> href="http://www.antwebsystems.com";>here for an example.</a></li> >>>>> <li><a >>>>> href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-implementing-a-product-pdf-export/ >>>>> " target="_blank">OFBiz Tutorial – Implementing a Product PDF >>>>> export</a> on <a href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blo g/" >>>>> target="_blank">HotWax Media Blog</a></li> >>>>> <li><a >>>>> href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-implementing-a-product-csv-export/ >>>>> " target="_blank">OFBiz Tutorial – Implementing a Product CSV >>>>> export</a> on <a href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blo g/" >>>>> target="_blank">HotWax Media Blog</a></li> >>>>> <li><a >>>>> href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-enhancing-the-product-list-screen/ >>>>> " target="_blank">OFBiz Tutorial – Enhancing the Product list >>>>> screen</a> on <a href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blo g/" >>>>> target="_blank">HotWax Media Blog</a></li> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> > >
