Hi Scott:
What private list? I thought this was a transparent process that
everyone should have access to.
BTW, you guys are a real "hoot". I'm enjoying every bit of this thread.
Regards,
Ruth
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Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
ruth.hoff...@myofbiz.com
Scott Gray wrote:
Jacques, you are mis-interpreting the contents of that ASF document and I
really would prefer it if you kept your thoughts to the private list. This way
we can correct you before you start scaring people away from marketing the
project for us.
Thank you
Scott
On 7/03/2010, at 2:20 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Hey guys,
This could be so easy :/
Hans agreed to give the credentials to all commiters but he asked us to send
him a demand.
We don't need to ask, if it's open Hans sould send all commiters the credential
to share apache_ofbiz Twitter account.
I should be pretty clear at this moment. The works "Apache" "OFBiz" and the phrase
"Apache OFBiz" are ASF trademarks: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ (I use references to
sections of this page in the following)
So they can't be used in domain name (cf. section "Using Apache trademarks in domain
names"). Hans can't use http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz alone as an individual or
for his company.
So please, for the last time, Hans before I ring Shane Curcuru's bell (current
VP, Apache Brand Management), simply send credentials to all commiters and the
war is over (Note that, though I don't think it's the way to go, I already
asked you to send me credentials as you suggested, but did not receive anything
yet). Then I suggest to put the button like you did Hans. It's a *great idea*
and I'm sure you will appreciate to have an help on feeding the tweets as you
already suggested.
http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz is a special case because not only it uses ASF trademark
in domain name but it also shows it on the page, along with OFBiz logo not going back to
http://ofbiz.apache.org/ (cf. section "Using the Apache Foo (and similar) graphic
logos")
But I don't see a reason why the rule for the domain should not apply also to
http://twitter.com/ofbiz_help
http://twitter.com/ofbizbyhotwax
And Hans just followed the path actually... (is there other cases?)
Some other points which are related and worth to be noted
Hotwax Media must care about how they use the OFBiz logo in their pages at
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com. The rule is that if it's not adapted (like Hans did
for OFBiz in Thailand at , it should only link back to http://ofbiz.apache.org/
Same for the footer of http://www.antwebsystems.com/control/main (the "OFBiz
feather" used for the tweet could be ok if all commiters get credentials and the PMC
agree is the OFBiz official Tweeter account). Now http://www.ofbiz.in.th/ is wrong also
as long it's not on the ASF infra (ofbiz should not be used in domain name outsided of
ASF infrastructure, is there other cases?)
It's time to clean the house, before all this becomes unmanageable
(proliferation). I made my best to explain the rules, if you see a flaw in my
reasoning please correct me. If you see other cases that should be corrected,
chime in, it's your duty!
And please also understand that it's really not pleaseant for me (or anyone
else I guess) to play the cop and spend so much time on this (for persons out
of PMC, we already shared some about this privately). I dot it only because I'm
a third party (ie not HWM affiliated nor Ant Web) and I like things to be clear
and no injustices prevail. If we continue to ignore this facts they will
finally blow up in our faces (as this Tweeter account issue being to show) and
nobody will win anything. There are rules, why not simply follow them, is that
so hard?
Jacques
From: "Tim Ruppert" <tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com>
Hans, please revert this one too - sorry. It wouldn't make sense for all
service providers to do this - so please let's not keep doing this stuff.
What i would recommend for this kind of stuff, if we need to list it at all,
would be to enhance the service providers page on the wiki. I mentioned this
earlier but maybe we should add a full page, linked from the service provider
page, where people can put this type of info? I personally think this is what
your own website is for, but I'm all for enhancing everyone's ability to get
the word out.
What does everyone think of that as a place to promote yourself?
Cheers,
Ruppert
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Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595
On Mar 6, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Scott Gray <scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
I'm only going to send one email about this, If anyone else cares they can
push it.
This is news:
<a href="http://www.twitter.com/apache_ofbiz/"; target="_blank">Now OFBiz on
<b>TWITTER</b>, follow the news from an enduser perspective</a>, up to one tweet per day.
A link to your home page is not:
You can also promote OFBiz at your site with this news, look <a
href="http://www.antwebsystems.com";>here for an example.</a>
Why you are constantly trying to push the boundaries I have no idea.
Regards
Scott
On 6/03/2010, at 6:14 PM, hans...@apache.org wrote:
Author: hansbak
Date: Sun Mar 7 01:14:19 2010
New Revision: 919905
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=919905&view=rev
Log:
announcing the ofbiz twitter news now in line with the other news offerings.
Modified:
ofbiz/site/index.html
Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=919905&r1=919904&r2=919905&view=diff
=== === ===
=====================================================================
--- ofbiz/site/index.html (original)
+++ ofbiz/site/index.html Sun Mar 7 01:14:19 2010
@@ -237,6 +237,7 @@
<h2>In the News</h2>
<ul>
+ <li><a href="http://www.twitter.com/ apache_ofbiz/" target="_blank">Now OFBiz on
<b>TWITTER</b>, follow the news from an enduser perspective</a>, up to one tweet per day. You can also promote OFBiz at your site with
this news, look <a href="http://www.antwebsystems.com";>here for an example.</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-implementing-a-product-pdf-export/ "
target="_blank">OFBiz Tutorial – Implementing a Product PDF export</a> on <a
href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blo g/" target="_blank">HotWax Media Blog</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-implementing-a-product-csv-export/ "
target="_blank">OFBiz Tutorial – Implementing a Product CSV export</a> on <a
href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blo g/" target="_blank">HotWax Media Blog</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-enhancing-the-product-list-screen/ "
target="_blank">OFBiz Tutorial – Enhancing the Product list screen</a> on <a
href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blo g/" target="_blank">HotWax Media Blog</a></li>
