Hans Bakker wrote:
I give up already before your message, Tim.
as happened often in the past as with the setup application, with the
myportal application, with the birt integration, with the new ebay
component and now with this twitter account, i get really tired by
certain people fighting, especially new, additions to the system. For
the good of the project? i am sorry i do not think so. Certain people
like to show their powers only. Read other mailinglists how other people
think about ofbiz and how many people are using ofbiz but do not
contribute.
Discussion before hand? I think it gets then even more problematic, it
takes too long time, my customer does not want to wait for.
I am now slowly considering creating components outside of ofbiz like is
happening in china and France because it is causing too much grief and
discussion to get it into ofbiz.
This message comments on the general state of affairs with Hans and not
just the effort to add a Twitterfeed in the vein of what other competing
projects already have on their home page.
Having spent the past month dealing with the sorry state of purchase
returns I do have to say that I feel an unfair standard is applied to
Hans'. The portal, the project manager, the Ebay integration and the
BIRT integration are, in my mind, some of the most interesting new
developments in the system and I am actively trying to figure out how to
put them to use. The Ebay system connects your lowly OFBiz inventory
into the world's largest marketplace and the BIRT integration adds (or
works towards adding) enterprise level reporting that is a silver bullet
item for us when presenting the system to clients.
Fundamentally, I see a failure to honor the contribution in proportion
to complaining about its flaws. Its as if someone brought you a valuable
gift and all you could comment on is the quality of the wrapping paper.
We should work harder to assist in the integration of these useful tools
rather than turning on a "my way or the highway" flamethrower. (see
Matthew 7:3)
Hans' contributions have inarguable value and some of the weaknesses in
his commits (ie. inconsistent indentation) seem like a good opportunity
for someone with less experience to do something useful. It would be a
crying shame if we lost the features I listed above because of otherwise
minor imperfections in their construction.
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 01:48 -0700, Tim Ruppert wrote:
Please send me the credentials as well - I'd like to update the Bio and make
this actually look like an ASF resource if we're being forced into having
something else to maintain. We all have twitter feeds, but we didn't post them
on the front page acting like they are coming from the project - this is the
inherent problem.
Btw, Hans, in the future, I would appreciate you talking BEFORE you starting
making more things for the project to be in charge of - ebaystore, twitter
account for the project, etc, etc. I'm a willing participant, but just because
you have commit privileges doesn't mean that you shouldn't have conversations
about what you're doing and why. I think that if you followed this guideline,
and looked for some more help before diving on issues, you might find that
there are plenty of people that are interested in your ideas and they might
contribute to a higher quality product than you're tossing out by yourself
(this is at least something I've always subscribed to).
--
Ean Schuessler, CTO
[email protected]
214-720-0700 x 315
Brainfood, Inc.
http://www.brainfood.com
