I'm all for plurality as well. In fact, I have at least 10 more front-end and backend themes that I am working on or planning. I'm just not sure I want to maintain 10 more themes in the trunk. What if Bruno, Ean or anyone else creates more themes as well? Do we really want to constantly maintain 10, 20, 30 different themes?...
Ryan L. Foster 801.671.0769 cont...@ryanlfoster.com On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Yes, but why not create an evolution and keep the old one? Is it so bad that > Ryan and you want to remove it? I like plurality, and especially I'm sure it > will be easier for some of our users to have it at hand... > > Any other opinions? > > Jacques > > From: "Adrian Crum" <adri...@hlmksw.com> >> From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual >> theme being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will get the >> attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I can fix >> it. If I'm not available, someone else could fix it, etc. >> >> -Adrian >> >> On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> Ryan, >>> >>> Your screen copies at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092 >>> looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation... >>> >>> My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep >>> up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance what happened >>> to Bizzness Time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398. >>> >>> Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works great. Why >>> taking any risks with it? Also I can't see any issues with having more >>> themes. The more we have the better, I like to have the choice. Some >>> (rare) people prefer to use old things, see games machines or >>> synthesizers for instance (I still love the DX-7 sound >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7 >>> http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx7.php) >>> >>> There are any evolved version of Flat Grey yet. So this could be the 1st >>> modern one still using the RTL mechanism introduced by Adrian. Just >>> choice the name! >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> Ryan Foster wrote: >>>> IMO I see no reason to have a "Flat Grey Evolution" theme. Adrian is >>>> right, the Flat Grey theme hasn't had a visual update in >>>> years and it looks very dated. It needs some love. Let's not add >>>> another improved version, let's just improve the version we >>>> have now. I think that is more efficient and more beneficial in the >>>> long run. >>>> >>>> As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal, tab-like >>>> navigation without actually having the tabs look like tabs. >>>> Because, the absolutely do look terrible displayed in two rows. >>>> Adrian, I would be happy to collaborate with you on this. I >>>> think I have some ideas that could help. Email me directly if you want >>>> to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list >>>> discussion. >>>> >>>> Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can use this as >>>> an opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a new theme >>>> I have been working on already for some time now that I honestly hope >>>> will become the go-to theme for scalability and >>>> customization, and that will eventually replace the Flat Grey theme >>>> altogether. The new theme scales down very well to 800x600 >>>> and has minimal styling for maximum flexibility and customization. >>>> Stay tuned for more details in the next few days... >>>> >>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>> 801.671.0769 >>>> cont...@ryanlfoster.com >>>> >>>> On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs look like pieces >>>>> of Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible when they are >>>>> displayed in two rows. >>>>> >>>>> -Adrian >>>>> >>>>> --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> By "chiclet" main navigation style, >>>>>> you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep Flat Grey as >>>>>> it is (because there are advantages >>>>>> to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution... >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Adrian Crum" <adrian.c...@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo >>>>>> and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to get rid of >>>>>> the "chiclet" >>>>>>> main navigation style, and maybe have that menu in a >>>>>> collapsible left column. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp >>>>>>> <sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Sascha Rodekamp <sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme >>>>>>>> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org, >>>>>> "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> >>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM >>>>>>>> I really would appreciate to keep the >>>>>>>> Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a >>>>>>>> few visual improvements. >>>>>>>> Let me think about this, maybe somethink comes to >>>>>> my mind >>>>>>>> ..... :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IIRW, it's the only really RTL capable. So a big YES to keep it, >>>>>>>>> of course. >>>>>>>>> I have no ideas though :/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: "Adrian Crum" <adrian.c...@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Flat Grey visual theme is getting old. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The current version of the theme is based on the original look >>>>>>>>>> and feel of >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz when I first joined the community - back in 2004. Around >>>>>>>>>> the Spring of >>>>>>>>>> 2007 I added some gradient gifs to make the original style a >>>>>>>>>> little more >>>>>>>>>> interesting. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After that, the visual theme was converted to a floating >>>>>>>>>> flexible layout >>>>>>>>>> (to fit any size screen), it was made >>>>>>>> sight-impaired accessible (font size >>>>>>>>>> can be changed), and it added support for bi-directional layout >>>>>>>>>> (for rtl >>>>>>>>>> languages). Those design decisions were made by the OFBiz >>>>>>>>>> community and, in >>>>>>>>>> my opinion, continue to make the Flat Grey theme the fallback >>>>>>>>>> theme when all >>>>>>>>>> else fails. It just works. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Despite its advantages, it looks dated. I would like to update >>>>>>>>>> it to make >>>>>>>>>> it more modern, but maintain its advantages over the other >>>>>>>>>> themes. I'm >>>>>>>>>> thinking it only needs css and gif file updates. The current >>>>>>>>>> templates and >>>>>>>>>> javascripts would be maintained. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If anyone is interested, they are welcome to help out. I would also >>>>>>>>>> appreciate any suggestions or comments. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sascha Rodekamp >>>>>>>> Lynx-Consulting GmbH >>>>>>>> Johanniskirchplatz 6 >>>>>>>> D-33615 Bielefeld >>>>>>>> http://www.lynx.de >>> >>> >>> > >
