Hi Hans,

Of course you know the business problem better than anyone else does, but
even so I tend to agree with Adrian.

It seems to me "DVD midlevel price" is a pricing rule, not a product. I may
well rent two instances of "DVD midlevel price" if they were different DVD
titles (e.g. Die Hard 1 and 2). It would be most unlikely that I'd want to
rent two instances of the same title.

There are many business opportunities when you know what title a customer
has rented. For example: "we can see that you have recently rented The Lord
Of The Rings 1 and 2, here's a special offer for number 3", 'We can see
you've rented several titles starring Bruce Willis, would you like to rent
these others?". 

You might want to vary the pricing for some titles compared to others: have
a Bruce Willis festival, or "the Star Wars Blu-Ray set is now out, time to
increase/decrease the price of our DVDs". So while for the moment there are
thousands of titles at the same price, there's no guarantee that will
continue forever.

You might want to track how popular a title is: "Die Hard 1 is very popular
and never in stock, we should acquire a few more copies".

There's a problem getting the products defined in Ofbiz in the first place,
but one of the online DVD catalogues might  help, and you have to put the
fixed assets into Ofbiz in any case.

Cheers

Paul Foxworthy


hans_bakker wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 06:56 +0100, Adrian Crum wrote:
>> If they are the same product, then they are in the same product
>> categories.
>> 
> 
> so that is limitation of the current datamodel?......looks like i have
> to create for every asset a product and a single inventory item of which
> many have the same price and other data, only the picture is different
> because i cannot store that on the fixed asset.
> 
> Then i also better use the 'instanceOfProduct field on the fixed asset
> and do not need the fixedassetProduct entity and the recently added
> fixedAssetId field on the inventoryitem..
> 
>> I have three copies of the Die Hard DVD. Why would I want to put each 
>> one in a different product category? What you are suggesting doesn't 
>> make sense.
>> It might help if you gave some specific examples of what you are trying 
>> to do.
> 
> I have a single product : "DVD midlevel price" relating to 10,000 dvd's
> with different fixed asset titles in different genre's but the same
> rental price
> 
>> 
>> -Adrian
>> 
>> On 9/23/2011 6:51 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> > Can you help me think in the right direction?
>> >
>> > how can i show some fixedassets of the same product in one category and
>> > some of the assets in another category?
>> >
>> > Thank you in advance for your help.
>> >
>> > Regards,m=
>> > Hans
>> >
>> > On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 06:47 +0100, Adrian Crum wrote:
>> >> Hans,
>> >>
>> >> The data model supports what you are trying to do if YOU think about
>> it.
>> >> There is no need to connect a fixed asset to a product category.
>> >>
>> >> -Adrian
>> >>
>> >> On 9/23/2011 6:44 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> >>> sure can do that, but i want a specific instance showing in one
>> category
>> >>> and another instance showing in a different category......
>> >>>
>> >>> Adrian, before you answer can you please think about it a bit?
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Hans
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 06:42 +0100, Adrian Crum wrote:
>> >>>> Use FixedAssetProduct.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Adrian
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 9/23/2011 6:37 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> >>>>> but if you want a particular instance of a product?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I have products (as i described):
>> >>>>>> In this product type the product is a group of video rentals of
>> the
>> >>>>>> same rental price referring to many video assets.
>> >>>>> Hans
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 06:32 +0100, Adrian Crum wrote:
>> >>>>>> A fixed asset is an instance of a product, much like an inventory
>> item
>> >>>>>> is an instance of a product. So, no - you do not want to connect a
>> fixed
>> >>>>>> asset to a product category.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Product: Die Hard DVD
>> >>>>>> Product Categories: DVD, Action, Drama, Bruce Willis
>> >>>>>> Fixed Assets: 10010, 10011, 1012
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -Adrian
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 9/23/2011 6:20 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Now we can have rental products where the asset can be rented....
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> In this product type the product is a group of video rentals of
>> the same
>> >>>>>>> rental price referring to many video assets.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> However now we also want to categorize these assets in order to
>> display
>> >>>>>>> them on the e-commerce website.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Is adding a fixedAssetid field to the ProductCategoryMember
>> entity a
>> >>>>>>> solution?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
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