Hi Mansour,
From: "Mansour Al Akeel" <mansour.alak...@gmail.com>
Jacques,
We use RTL.
May be you are right about the the ease of use to find an item, but
the user who has permission to all these functionality is an admin,
and normally, she is comfortable finding any item quickly. The rest of
the uses don't have that much items and menus shown.
This makes sense for a deployment, not OOTB. It's IMO easier to select Flat
Grey, if you prefer, for your deployments and to keep
Tomahawk as OOTB default for the reasons I explained and others I add below.
I know, other themes may look better, or fancier, but most users use
flat gray to base their work on and extend/customize it, because it's
easier and cleaner. I am not sure if bigger organization prefer
fancier look and feel over cleaner. And to be honest, I think flat
gray looks more professional than others. Therefore, it give a
positive first impression, when demonstrated.
Additional themes may still exist beside FlatGray, but I recommend to
make it the default one.
What makes you think "most users use flat gray to base their work" ?
Could you define "easier and cleaner", and why Flat Grey is easier and cleaner
(besides that it's the only one that is RTL which I
understand for you is a must have)
What makes you think Flat Grey looks more professionnal? For me Flat Gray has
not enough contrast. In other words all looks
grey/pale and it's difficult to spot things.
With Tomahawk I quickly spot buttons, links, etc. because there is more
contrast. Maybe it's
If you read me, it's not about being fancier but ergonomic which is for me the
only priority for the community to use OFBiz OOTB
(contrary to deployments)
Also I'd like to know why Flat Grey is the only Theme being marked as being
Sight-Impaired Accessible? Adrian? I remember I began to
add <<title="Skip navigation" accesskey="2>> (which is really only a small/poor
beginnng) but that's for all themes. What is
specific to Flat Grey?
The only things I could concede:
1. Like 1 to 5% of the male population (women are rarely touched) I'm daltonian
(kind of sight-impaired ;o) so my vision about
contrast is maybe biased
2. Maybe, because it uses a blackboard background style rather than a white
paper style, Tomahawk is more arduous for eyes on a long
term (hours of work)
Thanks for sharing your opinion :o)
Jacques
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux
<jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
I see that most people prefer Flat Grey.
Let me explain why I prefer Tomahawk.
Did you ever wonder why the paper we write on has more than often a greater
height than width, why newspaper have many columns, etc.
Here is an answer
http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/3553/why-do-newspapers-use-multiple-columns
OK, my argument: don't you feel a pain to find an application, a menu entry
in Flat Grey? No? Then you are used to find it at some place and don't care
anymore. Now just imagine the same for a new user...
This is where Tomahawk is better. It's far easier to find an entry in 2
colums (applications in Tomahawk) than in 7 columns (applications in Flat
Grey). Or an entry in an application (1 column for Tomahawk, up to 14 in
Flat Grey). Just try it
Another point: Product screens are awful in Flat Grey (to many buttons for
menus, hard to spot). Though actually I believe Tomahawk would benefit from
a third column, for instance for Product. This could be 2 twin columns if
more than, say, 15 entries would show in a column. Like we have for
Applications, though not sure how it's organized. I mean why some are in
right column and other in left one? Also something wich could help spot
entries quicker would be to allow sorting entries in menus by language. It's
now only done based on English.
OK, now there is the RTL feature. Who use it? Few I guess
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-left
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-to-right#Directionality). Which does not
diminish RTL importance, but ponders it in choice for a default theme.
My 2 cts
Jacques
From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vijaywargiya.ash...@gmail.com>
My vote will be to keep two themes in the project. IMO Flatgrey theme is
the best to keep as the default one for the project.
--
Ashish
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Jacopo Cappellato <
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
> I) $OFBIZ_HOME/themes/*: move a few of them to "Attic" and a few of
> them
to "Extras"; keep just one (or two)
>
Jacques proposed to keep Tomahawk (default) and Flat Grey.
Olivier proposed to keep just one (Tomahawk, I guess).
No other comments so far.
What should be do with the remaining themes? Attic or Extras? Are there
volunteers for Extras? I would suggest that, if we move them to Extras we
create *one* project only (for all the themes) rather than one project
for
theme... but I would love to get your feedback on this.
Jacopo
