Just for the record, we disable the birt container. I don't like loading things I know aren't being used.
Cheers, Anne. On 23 March 2012 22:33, Mansour Al Akeel <mansour.alak...@gmail.com> wrote: > in the config for base: > > base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml: <!-- load the BIRT container --> > base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml: <container name="birt-container" > class="org.ofbiz.birt.container.BirtContainer"/> > > > This is what loads Birt. Not sure if there's something else needed to load > it. > Can this be temporary used until OSGI is introduced. OSGI makes it > easy to load and unload any component. So (if done properly), no > integration in the framework should be done. In this case Birt > component should contain the logic to load its self when deployed into > OSGI container. So those who needs it can just install it with one > command. > > In the mean while, cleaning the code base will make it easier to look > into the messy code in framework, and remove what is not needed. Which > will help bringing new things like OSGI to the table. > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Anne <a...@cohsoft.com.au> wrote: > > +1 to Mansour's comments. > > > > I don't use Birt. I use JasperReports (GPL/LGPL). With JasperReports and > > Groovy I currently > > > >>> 2. can use ofbiz fieldnames and entity names. (not databasenames) > >>> 3. can use OFBiz views..... > >>> 4. can fully integrate in the ERP application. > >>> 5. has many inbuilt output formats. > > > > (points are from Hans earlier email, though maybe my idea of "fully > > integrate" isn't the same as Hans). I presume I can also incorporate the > > warehouse entities, and use minilang (Hans' other two points), though I > > haven't yet tried either. Maybe it is easier to do these things with > Birt, > > but I don't have any difficulty with JasperReports. > > > > More importantly to me, if I decide to drop JasperReports and move to > > something else later, it won't be very difficult. > > > > I am sure Hans integration of Birt would be very useful for those who use > > Birt, and I expect they appreciate his effort. If Birt was in Extras, > > perhaps some of those people would be more likely to contribute to its > > maintenance. > > > > Cheers, > > Anne. > > > > On 23 March 2012 01:37, Mansour Al Akeel <mansour.alak...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> I don't know why birt is integrated with Ofbiz. A reporting tools, is > >> an add-on to any database driven system, and not essential for the > >> over all functionality. Yes all of us need reports, and most of the > >> time we use a reporting engine, but why can't it be separated from the > >> code base, and used as a separate application ? > >> > >> From my perspective, the core should contain only components needed to > >> bring it up to a functional state. Entity Engine, Service Engine, fall > >> under this category. Some may argue that UI should be considered as > >> well, and this is valid argument. But when it comes to reporting > >> engine, I don't think so. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Erwan de FERRIERES > >> <erwan.de-ferrie...@nereide.fr> wrote: > >> > Le 22/03/2012 02:38, Hans Bakker a écrit : > >> > > >> >> Jacopo, > >> >> > >> >> you are making here a very negative review of the Birt > integration....as > >> >> any component sure there is room for improvement however.... > >> >> > >> >> Some positives you did not even notice? > >> >> > >> >> 1. can use minilanguage for the retrieval > >> >> 2. can use ofbiz fieldnames and entity names. (not databasenames) > >> >> 3. can use OFBiz views..... > >> >> 4. can fully integrate in the ERP application. > >> >> 5. has many inbuilt output formats. > >> >> 6. Incorporates the warehouse entities. > >> >> > >> >> Created/extended the datawarehouse which is essential for > ordereporting. > >> >> We have very big customers where using order reports directly on the > >> >> OFBiz database was not possible. > >> >> > >> >> This warehouse function is essential for large customers > >> >> > >> >> I very strongly think about keeping this in the framework. > >> >> > >> >> BI component I agree, can go.... > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> Hans > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > I'm in two minds about BIRT. It's a fine tool to make reports, but > >> underused > >> > in OFBiz. > >> > If the concerns Jacopo has about it were resolved, will it be kept in > >> > framework ? > >> > Also, creating more of those reports (with not available features in > >> FOP), > >> > will this go in the right way to keep it there ? > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Erwan de FERRIERES > >> > www.nereide.biz > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd > > PO Box 2773 > > Cheltenham Vic 3192 > > Phone: (03) 9585 6788 > > Fax: (03) 9585 1086 > > Web: http://www.cohsoft.com.au/ > > Email: sa...@cohsoft.com.au > > > > Bonsai ERP, the all-inclusive ERP system > > http://www.bonsaierp.com.au/ > -- Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 2773 Cheltenham Vic 3192 Phone: (03) 9585 6788 Fax: (03) 9585 1086 Web: http://www.cohsoft.com.au/ Email: sa...@cohsoft.com.au Bonsai ERP, the all-inclusive ERP system http://www.bonsaierp.com.au/
