That's very ambitious, as I just said in another message, I'm still not in 
future, but taking into account what Java 8 brings us could start me...

Jacques

On Sunday, January 19, 2014 1:27 PM, adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com wrote
> Using Moqui was suggested in the links I posted, but no one has done
> anything about it.
> 
> Like I said, "The goal would be to start over from scratch - using sound
> design principles and the lessons learned from the current code." Moqui
> copies problems from our existing framework, I want to fix them.
> 
> 
> Adrian Crum
> Sandglass Software
> www.sandglass-software.com
> 
> On 1/18/2014 8:26 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> Adrian,
>> 
>> My position is that OFBiz will probably last another 10-20 years and i
>> am not in favor of big changes in the OFBiz framework and certainly are
>> against replacing it unless it is Moqui. When i think the Moqui
>> framework is ready to take over, we will slowly move GrowERP and our
>> customers using OFBiz to using Moqui.
>> 
>> I think it would be really a pity if you start your own framework, I
>> would suggest to work together with David and join forces. Getting a new
>> framework into the market will be really hard work and competing with
>> Moqui you sure will get a difficult time. We from AntWebsystems
>> certainly will help in the Mantle/Moqui development in the next few years
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>> 
>> On 19/01/14 04:11, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>> Some years ago we engaged in a discussion about rewriting the OFBiz
>>> framework:
>>> 
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-dev/201203.mbox/%3c4f4f51da.50...@sandglass-software.com%3E
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then a suggestion was made to base OFBiz on the Moqui framework:
>>> 
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-dev/201203.mbox/%3c4f617965.4010...@me.com%3E
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Since those discussions, progress has been made in rewriting bits and
>>> pieces of the framework, but no one has tackled replacing the
>>> framework entirely. I am ready to begin that effort.
>>> 
>>> My preference would be to create a branch and start building things
>>> out there - with the help of others. The goal would be to start over
>>> from scratch - using sound design principles and the lessons learned
>>> from the current code.
>>> 
>>> If there is support for this effort, then I can begin working on it in
>>> February. If not, then I will most likely start a separate project -
>>> similar to the approach taken by Moqui.
>>> 
>>> I created a design document:
>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Another+Framework+Vision
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is in the draft stage. Comments and suggestions are welcome.

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