Hi Adam, Maybe I do not understand your point exactly, but I find it very trivial to install gradle with the following steps on _any_ platform:
1) Download the latest binary gradle release from their website. The current version is 2.4 2) Set $JAVA_HOME to the correct java version on your computer 3) add $GRADLE_HOME/bin to your path and enjoy! I hardly see a problem in lack of gradle release as a Debian package. It definitely exists for Ubuntu and Linux Mint which combined takes most of the linux users base. Again maybe I missed something in the thread? Taher Alkhateeb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Heath" <doo...@brainfood.com> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 6 May, 2015 5:57:56 PM Subject: Re: survey: what version(s) of gradle are available on your systems? On 05/06/2015 09:52 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > On May 6, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Adam Heath <doo...@brainfood.com> wrote: > >> Gradle has to be installed before building ofbiz, so you couldn't use gradle >> to install gradle. And I'd prefer not to embed it directly. > The Groovy project has some scripts for this: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-groovy/blob/master/gradlew To restate, the reason I don't want maven, gradle, or ant embedded into ofbiz, is that there has been, um, issues, when it comes to using eclipse, and other tools, that *also* embed ant. On this same vein, we don't embed the approved version of the jdk into ofbiz either. With maven, gradle, and ivy, and more modern systems, the target has been to move away from embedding dependencies. It's even a best practice from ASF, as it then reduces the load on mirrors. So, take it to the logical conclusion, and don't embed the build system either.