Hi
I've added some comments inline.
Thanks
Sharan
On 03/08/16 21:52, Pierre Smits wrote:
I believe the link to the site of Antweb (ofbiz.info) adds little value, as
the list can be sorted on location.
Further more the columns 'number of committers/contributors' and
'Contributors' provide an unfair advantage to those with committers and
more than 1 contributor.
This is something that is currently under discussion, and I know that we
have had some views both ways. I left these columns in for now, pending
the conclusion of that discussion.
The same applies with to service providers with
more than one location.
I disagree with this comment and the idea that having multiple locations
gives an unfair advantage. If a company has a registered legal entity in
more than one country then it is a valid company location. (Perhaps this
could be our criteria....)
As I mentioned earlier, let the service providers
do their marketing on their own site. Referencing blog sites, social media
accounts, email addresses, etc falls into that category.
Agreed with exception of email addresses (see comment below)
A link to the primary website of the service provider should be enough,
I don't think this is flexible enough. From the current list you will
see that not all service providers have a website, so in some cases a
contact email address may need to be used instead.
resulting in following columns in the table:
- name
- Country, Province/Region/State
- website.
Might need to rename 'Website' as 'Contact Information' as not all
service providers have a website link.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services
OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
Thanks for the effort Sharan!
I'd wait a bit that people have a look. I just had a glance but did not
review all yet.
for instance, I'm fine with http://www.ofbiz.info/control/providers but I
wonder if it follows the rules because I also did not read yet
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#productsupport
Jacques
Le 03/08/2016 à 14:21, Sharan Foga a écrit :
Hi All
I have done an initial review of the service provider page and removed
any of the links that are broken, no longer working or where the webpage
has nothing to do with OFBiz. If I know that it is OFBiz related (even
though I couldnt find it on the website, I have left it in the list). There
are a few Chinese ones that I will need some help in de-coding :-)
I think this list built up to a big size was because it was previously
open and people just came in and created an entry and link to their
website, even if it had absolutely nothing to do with OFBiz. Now with
having to be a contributor to edit the wiki, I hope this will prevent this
type of thing happening in the future.
It is sorted alphabetically and I've removed the description column. I
will take a look at the link Emmanuel has provided. Should I continue with
the tidy up based on what has been talked about so far or should I wait to
see if this needs to be discussed some more?
Thanks
Sharan
On 2016-08-03 09:43 (+0200), "Sharan Foga"<sharan.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
I will start to implement some of these changes discussed here so if
anyone else wants to join in and help, then please feel free.
Thanks
Sharan
On 2016-08-02 16:06 (+0200), Jacopo Cappellato <
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:
While we wait for the new site we could:
0) add the page discalimer as suggested; additionally, as Jacques
pointed
out, this page is open to anyone who submits an ICLA and asks to be
registered as OFBiz contributor: no one is really reviewing the data
provided... we could mention this in the header of the page
1) merge the two lists into one
2) sort in alphabetical order
3) add a column with the number of committers; one with the number of
contributors; we could add also a column with the number of employees
working on OFBiz related projects; I don't think that this data would
"unduly
advantage one commercial entity": the idea is to provide some insight
about
the teams available to work on OFBiz specific projects
4) make the above columns sortable
5) Location: simply specify the location of the company's
offices/buildings; in the description the company can specify the
countries
of operation
Jacopo
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <
elecha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi !
it came to my attention that this page :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Service+Providers
might not be neutral enough, as it lists companies having Ofbiz
committers before any other companies. This is a problem, accordingly
to
this :
"Apache is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, which is a tax-exempt charity for
the
public
good. As such, our projects must not unduly advantage one commercial
entity
over another -- otherwise, funding our projects would be a way to fund
a
commercial activity without being taxed."
You can also have a look at
http://community.apache.org/projectIndependence :
"
Apache projects are managed independently
Apache projects must be managed independently, and PMCs must ensure
that
they are acting in the best interests of the project as a whole. Note
that it is similarly important that the PMC clearly show this
independence within their project community. The perception of existing
and new participants within the community that the PMC is run
independently and without favoring any specific third parties over
others is important, to allow new contributors to feel comfortable both
joining the community and contributing their work. A community that
obviously favors one specific vendor in some exclusive way will often
discourage new contributors from competing vendors, which is an issue
for the long term health of the project.
"
I would suggest you rework this page to order the company using an
alphabetical order, not mentionning the fact taht some committers
belong
to those companies.
I'm not sure that grouping companies by country is the right thing to
do, as some of them might provide support in many countries. One option
would be to add the list of countries a company provides support in on
the same line.
A disclaimer at the top of the page may also be added, informing users
that
neither Apache nor the project endorse any company. You can have a look
at other project's page :
http://cxf.apache.org/commercial-cxf-offerings.html
http://directory.apache.org/commercial-support.html
Thanks !
Emmanuel Lécharny
