Thanks Gil,
I think you've nailed it
I also agree with Divesh when he says
"About using it for whole community on community days can be good idea.
However using it in all other days may not be good idea for whole
community. So yes, as you mentioned that discussions and decisions will
still be done on mailing lists. Once we have some thing concrete to work
upon after discussions on mailing lists and we have volunteers who will be
working together on common task, then they might use HipChat for
collaboration."
Jacques
Le 22/08/2016 à 14:29, gil portenseigne a écrit :
Hello Sharan,
I really think that HipChat is a good tool to help teamwork and mentoring, it offers interactiveness that mailing list cannot offer. That was very
helpful in librairies externalization work.
Since it's technically possible, it's best to be open to anyone teamworking or
in mentorship.
Hipchat also allow some unformal friendly discussions, that can help us to know
each other, in that, I found it great.
But I think that it is very important to keep in mind the apache mantra "If it didn't happen on a mailing list, it didn't happen.", so every
starting discussion leading to a possible decision, could first be discussed in hipchat (to have a quick feedback about a fresh idea for example),
but have to be sent into proper mailing-lists.
Many Thanks Sharan for your work around this tool introduction !
Gil
Le 22/08/2016 à 10:42, Sharan Foga a écrit :
Hi All
A few weeks ago, in response to the results of the Committer Survey, I setup a
trial Hipchat environment to help with Committer Mentoring. (See links to the
previous discussion threads below:)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8b8738c3adcb1b7aafd7c90f9b1cbb54500578d8cd392c3b18d635b9@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5b64aad3bbaca967cf432adfd62ce68901c95218a8aa59d706aed6bc@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E
I really liked the HipChat environment and think that it's a great
collaborative tool that also helps build community spirit. So now I'd like to
get some feedback :-)
First of all I'd like to hear from the committers and mentors who participated
to find out what they thought of the HipChat environment, what their general
comments are and whether they would like it to be made available on a permanent
basis.
Secondly I'd like to get some general feedback from everyone to find out if the
whole community would also be interested in participating in HipChat
environment (e.g. for collaborating on Jiras, or during our Community Days).
Other ASF projects have HipChat spaces setup and publish a link that anyone can
use to join and we could do the same.
The mailing list would still be used for discussions and decisions but if
people are working together on a particular task then this could be a good way
to speed up the process. I'm thinking particularly about things like the
re-factoring and our Jira backlog where bringing together the reporter and the
developer could make things move a lot more quickly!)
We have another Community Day coming up in a few weeks on 17th September so it
could be a good chance to see how it could work in action. What do people think?
Thanks
Sharan
