Hi Taher,

Like I said earlier: I need to be able to see it working. Could you upload
your solution as a patch to the issue you created earlier?

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Taher Alkhateeb <slidingfilame...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> - The system can and does work with zip and tar.gz and normal folders.
> - The maven repo provides everything we need especially dependency
> management. I think upgrading from from your solution to the one I
> suggested below might be difficult once an ecosystem builds around the
> plug-in system.
> - I prefer specialpurpose over hot-deploy becauae of the added value of
> activating deactivating components (also easily automated)
> - The publishPlugin task takes care of all the details in making your
> plugin published as a maven artifact, so you don't do anything by hand.
>
> So I have a solution that works and tested in code. The implementation is
> not big because of utilizing established standards like maven and gradle
> embedded plugins.
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
>
> On Aug 29, 2016 9:37 AM, "Pierre Smits" <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This solutions must be able to work with:
> >
> >    - zip files
> >    - tar files and other zip variants (tar.gz, etc)
> >    - folder structures.
> >
> > That will enable the adopter to use local storage, but also releases
> stored
> > in GitHub or even svn repos.
> >
> > At the moment I see the use of maven repos as overkill, adding
> unnecessary
> > complexity when developing extensions. OFBiz is not that complex.. Unless
> > we want to have a full-fledged Eclipse-like plugin management solution
> from
> > the start. This is not low-hanging fruit, but rather something to have
> > later in the life-cycle of the solution maturity wise. Quick-win, at the
> > moment, would be that something could be retrieved from svn, github or
> > local folder and deployed in the hot-deploy folder.
> >
> > I guess I need to see this solution in combination with an example/demo
> > component that requires all the elements described in the PoC and the
> > earlier postings in this ml.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > slidingfilame...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > > I am very happy to announce that after a lot of research I finally
> have a
> > > little working PoC solution for the OFBiz plugin system. I believe this
> > > system is very simple yet very powerful with the following simple API
> > tasks
> > >
> > > 1- ./gradlew createPlugin: creates a plugin from templates
> > > 2- ./gradlew installPlugin: downloads a plugin and all its dependency
> > > plugins from a maven repository(it could be local, remote, jcenter,
> > > whatever), extracts the archives, add the plugin to component-load.xml,
> > and
> > > calls the install task.
> > > 3- ./gradlew uninstallPlugin: calls the uninstall task, removes the
> > plugin
> > > from component-load.xml, and deletes the plugin (but ignores
> > dependencies).
> > > 4- ./gradlew publishPlugin: create a maven compatible package that can
> be
> > > published to either a local or a remote repository.
> > >
> > > So what is very powerful about this solution? Well, you use the maven
> > > format for your packages, so you can host it on any maven repository
> > > including jcenter. Also, you have a standard way of declaring
> > dependencies
> > > (pom.xml) and you pretty much gain all the benefits that comes with
> maven
> > > packages (versioning, dependencies, meta data, etc ...)
> > >
> > > The solution can be expanded later on, but I think the above provides a
> > > good starting point. Ideas? Feedback? Should I go ahead and fine-tune /
> > > share the PoC on JIRA?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Taher Alkhateeb
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > > jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Le 25/08/2016 à 16:39, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> > > >
> > > >> Hello Everyone,
> > > >>
> > > >> I need some opinions for a PoC that I'm working on for the plugin
> > system
> > > >> (OFBIZ-7972) and appreciate your help:
> > > >>
> > > >> repository design
> > > >> ----------------------
> > > >> I am thinking of just having a very simple web server denoted as a
> > > >> repository where the plugins are just zip or tar archives that
> expand
> > to
> > > >> OFBiz components. For example, if the repository URL is
> > www.example.com
> > > >> then the plugin could be www.example.com/plugins/Specif
> > > >> icPluginHere.tar.gz.
> > > >> It downloads to the specialpurpose (hopefully renamed to plugins) to
> > > >> expand
> > > >> and install
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > I'm for removing the difference between specialpurpose and
> hot-deploy.
> > > > Why? Simplification!
> > > >
> > > > We should remove specialpurpose and rename hot-deploy into plugins.
> > > > This also means that we should have a Gradle task to automatically
> > > > download and install a plugin.
> > > > All current specialpurpose would become plugins available in the repo
> > > > easily installable using something like
> > > >     gradlew installPlugins plugins1Name plugins2Name etc.
> > > > I don't see the need to have a differentiated task to install only 1
> > > plugin
> > > >
> > > > The repo should be installed on the new OFBIZ-VM2
> > > >
> > > > We know that, like for the misnamed hot-deploy, installing a plugin
> > will
> > > > need a restart of the OFBiz instance.
> > > > So this can't be dynamically done (at least for now), but need to be
> at
> > > > least automated.
> > > >
> > > > The only current issue is if we have dependencies among plugins.
> > > > For now we can simply documented them for users to set their own
> > > > component-load.xml
> > > >
> > > > BTW as a reminder, after OFBIZ-6760 we need to update
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Component+
> > > > and+Component+Set+Dependencies
> > > > And possibly complete the possible existing interdependencies between
> > > > specialpurpose components, though I can't remember any, but I feel
> I'm
> > > > wrong here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > dependencies
> > > >> ------------------
> > > >> This is a complicated subject, and there are a few ideas I have in
> > mind:
> > > >> - Try to deploy the gradle project dependency model
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to know if you crossed issues with that and if yes what they
> > > are.
> > > > If it's the case can't we share the burden?
> > > >
> > > > - Alternatively write custom dependency resolution
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Please no :)
> > > >
> > > > However, this might be too complex to kickstart the project, and I
> > think
> > > >> perhaps we can start without a dependency management system and
> > > implement
> > > >> it in a later stage.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Yes why not? Baby steps for the win
> > > >
> > > > Jacques
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Thank you in advance for your help and feedback.
> > > >>
> > > >> Taher Alkhateeb
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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