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On Nov 7, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:14 AM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 22 October 2013 16:41, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>> <orwittm...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On 22.10.2013 10:04, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> it's really daunting that nobody cares!
>>> I care, but only as a user of our Bugzilla instance being frustrated when
>>> I need Bugzilla in the morning (European time zone).
>>> 
>>> It seems that we need to involve ASF Infra as I do not believe that this
>>> scheduled outage every day is controlled by us.
>> 
>> Just checked, there are no outstanding issues with aoo-bz, except its very
>> slow because it has not yet had the db moved. The "scheduled outage" is
>> unknown, but could be the backup which runs very early morning (europe
>> time).
>> 
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>> 
>> Ps. once again it was suggested that we move to jira.
> 
> So for argument's sake, and speaking purely hypothetically, what are
> the pros and cons of moving to JIRA?  It is worth at least discussing
> whether this would be something worth looking into.
> 
> 
> ==Con==
> 
> 1. Assume migration of new bugs would be imperfect.  But maybe not so
> bad.  We have many attachments, comments, etc., but the comments are
> all plain text, not rich text.
> 
> 2. New tool to learn for volunteers.  But many of us know JIRA also.
> 
> 3. Would require some time to migrate, from Infra and from BZ admins

Effort would be organizational. MySql to XML and making an attachment mapping 
of some kind.

> 
> 4. ???

From experience with such and because it is a shared tool Apache infra will 
likely set a high bar for accepting plugins and extra customizations.

> 
> ==Pro==
> 
> 1. Performance/stability?   I assume that is why Infra was suggesting this?
> 
> 2. Agile features that help with release planning

Agile tools are nice.

> 
> 3. Anything else ???

Modern and maintained UI, excellent search, good report customization.

Regards,
Dave

Disclaimer - I've used Jira for 12 years with an unfortunate hiatus with Mantis 
and Rally.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Rob
> 
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