Am 12/15/2013 11:39 AM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
You're absolutely right and I hope it will be able to
change that in the future, because it is a big problem for a
software aimed at end users.
I was trying to make a slightly different observation. We have the
ASF which is a foundation. The foundation includes many projects ==
Top Level Projects, Incubator, etc. We should not be calling anything
else a "project". This is different from OOo where we had other
things called "projects", e.g., the "marketing project", etc.
This part of your considerations has my consent (*) and should _not_ _now_ be
subject.
(*)
by which I mean I respect the decision of the Foundation as it is. That does
not mean I will not work to the Foundation the changes her mind to it ( not
now, but maybe in 5-10 years )
Now please let's talk about the risk of confusion by the "de" talk:
The argument was not logical, because the situation is already (and has been
for more than 2 years!) that _there is_ a mailing list
users...@openoffice.apache.org.
So if the "de" in the name of a mailing list, suitable to donate to the confusion there
would be a "German project", do it this mailing list _already_.
Logic is simple logic, and that is:
_if_ the "de" disturbs, then we must also rename the "users-de", _if_ "users-de" is OK,
so is also "dev-de" OK ... this is the point.
If we want to avoid confusion, especially when talking to other parts
of Apache, we should think of a different term to use in these cases.
Something like team, mission, special interest group, subcommittee,
function, area, etc.
"team" or "special interest group" is OK for me, but it's a German speaking
group.
*If we do not mark, it is just as misleading as some others.*
The point is _not_ that we _want_ to speak German, but we _have_ to speak
German for the concrete work in Germany.
Is it really only the "de" what bothers you?
*Then let us find a replacement for it, because I do not "de" not important,
but just any marking that is the list in German.*
I don't think that "de" was a problem.
the proposal of Marcus was:
project-de @
and if that does not seem good, as would be with, for example:
local-de-team@
or
de-team@
(which contains _your_ word "team")
Better?
"team" is really better and to put "de" at first, mix-ups are eleminated.
+1
Marcus
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