Am 02/18/2014 02:05 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>  wrote:

Am 02/15/2014 11:37 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

  On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>
  wrote:

  Am 02/14/2014 10:47 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

   Am 02/14/2014 10:32 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:


  On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>
wrote:

  As this is our first beta release at Apache, I would like to clarify
some
things before it's maybe too late to change the facts and to prepare
webpages:

1. Target group

It is intended to be downloaded for the general public, right?

2. Hosting

We are planning to host the files at Sourceforge, right?

3. File names:

Of course the file names of the install files have to show a
difference
compared to the general release files. Suggestion:

Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Beta_Win_x86_install.exe

*If* there is a need to publish another round, it could be extended
with a
number like:

Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Beta2_Win_x86_install.exe

4. Directory structure:

Is it OK to expect to use the same dir structure like we have
currently for
4.0.1?


  The above makes sense to me.


   5. Download webpage:


Is it OK to expect to offer the download on our main download webpage?
http://www.openoffice.org/download/

If yes, I can build up a download offer like we have for the green
box. To
ease the download as best as possible.


  I would not make this the default download option for users. We still
want most users to download AOO 4.0.1. So keep the first box on
/download.html as it is now.

Maybe a yellow box (yellow == caution) with language that makes it
clear that this is beta and gives the URL for reporting bugs.


I think I was not clear in my wording. :-)

Of course the current 4.0.1 should not be effected in any way.

With "ease the download as best as possible" I meant to do the same like
we have for the green box but of course with a different color and text.

   Were you thinking of a language/platform switch logic for the beta?

Or just a link to a "beta_other.html" page with a table of links? If
we do the table, then we would have room on the same page to give a
prominent warning, a link to BZ, Release Notes, etc.


I thought about the one-click-download we have already. Then of course a
"beta-other.html" is also needed and your suggestion makes absolutely
sense.

It could be a box somewhere below the green box. Or - as Kay mentioned -
a separate webpage.


I've added a quick version of how it could look like on the same download
webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html

- The first yellow box is for the download when the Beta release is
available. Of course the links are not yet working - but with link name
and
title you should get an first impression.


This looks good, and, given the wording, shouldn't cause confusion.


Thanks


  - The second one is a little teaser to show when is it coming. With a link
to the AOO blog - in case of if we want to blog about the upcoming Beta
release.


not sure about needing this.


Maybe we want to push the Beta release somehow. On the download webpage
this could help to point the attention to something that is coming soon.


Well, OK, I see your point, although the "beta" is supposed to be I just
assumed we would use normal channels when we were ready with this -- I
think the end of Feb is slated -- banner on website home page,
"announcements" e-mail, social channels. Again, it will be a "voted"
release. I think the only think that will remarkably distinguish it from a
"production" release is it's a more formal way to get feedback from users
before production.

That's all good. However, to have a little hint like "4.1.0 coming soon" on the download webpage is IMHO very valueable. When I remember right it's one of the most visited webpages on the entire AOO website.

However, it's just a suggestion. Let's see what time will request.

Marcus



Juergen has proposed a new date for the  "beta" to Feb. 28...I will change
this on the wiki

http://markmail.org/message/5kn5mk2qndjircqm



  PS:
The green box is still for the Mac OS X test:
- download AOO 4.1.0 if 10.7 or newer is recognized in browser
- download AOO 4.0.1 if 10.6 or older is recognized in browser



not for me! :) Still wants to give me Linux.


You need to browse with MacOS to the webpage. With other OS's it's just
the normal behavior.


Marcus

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