Am 02/27/2014 10:05 PM, schrieb jan i:
On 27 February 2014 21:59, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>  wrote:

Am 02/27/2014 09:31 PM, schrieb i...@raphaelbircher.ch:

  Hi at all

Zitat von jan i<j...@apache.org>:

  On 27 February 2014 16:58, Vladislav Stevanovic<
stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com>  wrote:

  Is it too late for update Serbian language?
Wlada


2014-02-27 16:50 GMT+01:00 Jürgen Schmidt<jogischm...@gmail.com>:

Hi,

we are still verifying some fixes to identify the Beta as real beta,
means some branding elements, names etc. And we are working on some
serious bugfixes that we have identified already.

The current plan is to start the build tomorrow and do the upload over
the weekend. That means we should have a RC for AOO 4.1 beta available
at the beginning of next.

The new icons are still not complete and I am not sure how we can or
should continue here. Replacing them for the final release is probably
not a good idea.

Work remaining before beta

1) Defect verification

2) Release Notes
check, update and finalize the release notes [1]

3) Communications
Clarify the communication/promotion for the beta. For example how many
users do we want to reach with the beta.

4) Release vote

Based on this a possible schedule can be

March 4th: availability of AOO 41. Beta RC + start vote


just for my understanding, dont we need to vote on the beta as well as
the
release. We send the beta out to general public, that would normally
require a vote (might be a fast one).


I wouldn't make a beta as a RC. After a Beta you have normaly several
showstopers to fix. I recall, RC = Release Candidate wich means, that we
assume the build is ready for release. Beta... wait two or tree weeks
fix showstoppers, and then a RC. And the important tests are not the one
in the RC, the important tests are at the build befor RC. Else we make
the same mess as in the 4.0.0.


RC means (at least for me) that you are done with that what you planned
for the coming release. At the moment we can nearly ready for the Beta
Release. So making a RC to get it out.

Later in the calendar we do another RC when we think 4.1.0 is ready for
public use as final release.

You can name different release builds as RC - depending on what you want
to archive with them - which is more or less only internally relevant. I
think this is what Juergen wanted to express.


the names are less important to me than the votes. Juergens schedule
suggested only 1 vote, but it seems I am not the only one who expect (at
least) 2 votes (one for Beta and one for GA).

I agree with Rob, that the word "release" is confusing, and the term "GA"
more precise for our purpose.

sure, this is also a solution. Maybe indeed the better one. ;-)

Marcus



  >  March 10th: public availability of AOO 41. Beta (until March 31th)
...: additional snapshot builds based on the beta including
showstopper
fixes
April 2th: availability of AOO 4.1 RC
April 7th: public availability of AOO 4.1

Any opinions or feedback
Juergen


[1]

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
AOO+4.1+Release+Notes

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