On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 4:52 PM, John D'Orazio <john.dora...@cappellaniauniroma3.org> wrote: > Interestingly mr. David Gerard IS a moderator on Wikipedia it seems. He > still has to abide by the rules though. And there is quite a bit of > discussion on the talk page, where some users have opted to split the > "Apache OpenOffice" project onto its own page as a completely separate > derivative project. All that is needed is to chime in on the article talk > page citing references to legal info about OpenOffice.org being officially > in the hands of the Apache Software Foundation. If there is evidence of > that (which seems obvious to me, I'm a newcomer but I go to the webpage and > I see Apache OpenOffice on the OpenOffice.org webpage), it just needs to be > cited on the talk page to back any kind of edits to the article that > reflect that. Seems that the article has already been split and "Apache > OpenOffice" has it's own wikipedia article ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice), I wouldn't make a big > deal about having a separate article but I would oppose the POV opinions > about Apache not having legal rights to the OpenOffice.org project (hence > the corrections to the infobox information). > I don't know all of the technicalities, so the edits I just made might not > be precise, for example which release was the first release to have the > Apache license? >
Is this the same David Gerard discussed here? https://encyclopediadramatica.se/David_Gerard > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On 09/14/2015 11:44 AM, John D'Orazio wrote: >> > I'll try to change it too. If someone on wikipedia reverts an edit up to >> > three times without founded reason, they can be blocked by a wikipedia >> > moderator. So they won't be able to continue reverting forever... >> >> Well this is interesting information. I was wondering if there might be >> editing wars forever! :) >> >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Matthias Seidel < >> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de >> >> wrote: >> > >> >> https://twitter.com/davidgerard >> >> >> >> >> >> Am 14.09.2015 um 17:03 schrieb Max Merbald: >> >> >> >>> I changed it back. Who is this David Gerard person who obviously wants >> >>> to damage OpenOffice? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Am 14.09.2015 um 16:48 schrieb Donald Whytock: >> >>> >> >>>> There was a minor skirmish last week over it. Looks like there'll be >> one >> >>>> this week too...someone changed it to "moribund". >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Phillip Rhodes >> >>>> <motley.crue....@gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Sorry, I missed the infobox when I looked at the page. You're right, >> >>>>> having "Dormant" there is flat out wrong and very misleading. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I changed it to "Active" just now and added a ref pointer to the >> 4.1.2 >> >>>>> release schedule that Andrea just provided. I just hope there aren't >> >>>>> certain parties with a vested interest in denigrating AOO sitting >> around >> >>>>> planning to start a revert war over this. :-( >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Phil >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Max Merbald <max.merb...@gmx.de> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Hi Phil, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> what I meant was the infobox at the top right. In that box it says >> that >> >>>>>> AOO is dormat, which is not correct and which is not in the >> citations. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> The >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> presence of a citation does not necessry mean that the claimed info >> >>>>>> is in >> >>>>>> the citation. If people read on the Wikipedia that AOO is "dormant" >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> they'll >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> start looking for different office software. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Max >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Am 03.09.2015 um 23:12 schrieb Phillip Rhodes: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I just looked at the Wikipedia page and don't see anything that's - >> >>>>>>> strictly speaking - incorrect, or lacking citations. IOW, I don't >> see >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> any >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> supportable rationale for removing anything that's there, although >> one >> >>>>>>> could question the motives of whoever made it a point to call out >> some >> >>>>>>> concerns about lack of activity in the first paragaph of the >> article. >> >>>>>>> Nonetheless, I think any attempt to modify that will face >> opposition. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> In a related vein, The Guardian recently ran this article titled >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> "Should I >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Switch From Apache OpenOffice to LibreOffice or Microsoft Office". >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>> >> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2015/sep/03/switch-openoffice-libreoffice-or-microsoft-office >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I don't know if there's any easy way to counter this narrative that's >> >>>>>>> spreading through the press, about AOO being >> dead/dormant/whatever, or >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> how >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> LO is clearly "the winner", but it's definitely unfortunate to see >> >>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>> kind of stuff spread around so widely. :-( >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Phil >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts < >> lui...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Hi Max, >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On 03 Sep 15, at 16:31, Max Merbald <max.merb...@gmx.de> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Hi there, >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> the Engish Wikipedia claims that AOO is dormant. I can't see >> where >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> they >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> have the information from. The sources they use don't say so. I >> think >> >>>>>>>> it's >> >>>>>>>> definitely bad for OpenOffice when people think no more is done >> about >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> it. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> The problem is also that LibreOffice has just published its >> >>>>>>>> version 5.0 >> >>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>> is getting ahead of us. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> thanks for the alert. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Wikipedia is composed by a crowd of editors, and you can change >> the >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> entry >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> to reflect the facts. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> So can anyone on this list. Becoming an editor at Wikipedia is not >> >>>>>>>> arduous. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Louis >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Max >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> -- >> -------------------------------------------- >> MzK >> >> “The journey of a thousand miles begins >> with a single step.” >> --Lao Tzu >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > don John R. 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