I think you owe Dave an apology, but that’s just my opinion.

If he has truly moved on I expect him to be professional and resign from 
moderation.

All the best,
Dave

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> On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> I am not sure what happened here...
> 
> But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter".
> 
> According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We
> should discuss if we need to remove his rights.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
>> Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>> I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage
>> quit.
>> 
>> There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to
>> late for that.
>> 
>>> Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave:
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>> 
>>> Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you
>>> had absolutely no sense of humour.
>>> 
>>> Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you
>>> have ever had contact with. So please do NOT!!!!! (expletives deleted)
>>> talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess
>>> who they might be.
>>> 
>>> YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here
>>> on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine".
>>> 
>>> Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list
>>> will now be directed to null/dev.
>>> 
>>> BYE AOO!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>> 
>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave:
>>>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry, but you loose that bet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and
>>>>> installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only
>>>>> readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with
>>>>> 16Gb
>>>>> RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close
>>>>> enough.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer
>>>>> SOMETHING to assist Peter.
>>>> I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user.
>>>> 
>>>> And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer.
>>>> 
>>>>> @Peter:
>>>>> On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO
>>>>> 4.1.13
>>>>> edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of
>>>>> to create a crash, but it remained rock solid.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there any difference between the RC and released code?
>>>> No.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>>     Matthias
>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave:
>>>>>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have never been a fan of GNOME.
>>>>>> I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and
>>>>>> a lot
>>>>>> of people *are* using GNOME...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     Matthias
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other
>>>>>>>> distributions when
>>>>>>>> GNOME is used as DE.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     Matthias
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave:
>>>>>>>>> On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As soon as I have added a OLE Calc part through Copy&Paste (From
>>>>>>>>>> LibreOffice :-D ), I get performance issues including crashes.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone heard of performance issues in this constraint?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Check out the document:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZScKadukzWfZGeJWsTEaGf1ORrLrmwGl/view?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I am on Ubunutu 20.04. AOO is the 4.1.13 RC candidate.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> My machine is an Intel I5, with 32GB, and SSD hard disk. (So
>>>>>>>>>> recent fast
>>>>>>>>>> machine)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Not sure if this will be of any help to you.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My hardware spec is very similar to yours and I am  on Linux
>>>>>>>>> Mint 20.3
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't get any (performance issues?) with your document in AOO
>>>>>>>>> 4.1.13
>>>>>>>>> (Released) and no crash when editing the OLE Calc object, with
>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>> AOO or LibreOffice on Linux.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> However, I do get a 100% reproducible crash when attempting to
>>>>>>>>> edit the
>>>>>>>>> OLE Calc object in your document with LibreOffice 7.3.5.2 x64
>>>>>>>>> on Win 10,
>>>>>>>>> but it does not crash LibreOffice 7.4.0.2 x64 on Win 10.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>> 
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