After 21 years working with users of OpenOffice.org, Apache OpenOffice, and LibreOffice Dave’s experience should be respected and not dismissed.
Assume a bad day or frustration instead of further reaction. Apologizing for misunderstanding someone is good, friendly community building. Assume the best, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Peter kovacs <peter.kov...@posteo.de> wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > Can you explain? > I do not understand why Dave is angry. > I dont think Matthias wanted to offend Dave. > > Thanks. > Peter > > Am 2. August 2022 16:54:04 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net>: >> I think you owe Dave an apology, but that’s just my opinion. >> >> If he has truly moved on I expect him to be professional and resign from >> moderation. >> >> All the best, >> Dave >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> >>>> wrote: >>> >>> I am not sure what happened here... >>> >>> But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter". >>> >>> According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We >>> should discuss if we need to remove his rights. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Matthias >>> >>>> Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs: >>>> I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage >>>> quit. >>>> >>>> There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to >>>> late for that. >>>> >>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave: >>>>> Hi Matthias, >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you >>>>> had absolutely no sense of humour. >>>>> >>>>> Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you >>>>> have ever had contact with. So please do NOT!!!!! (expletives deleted) >>>>> talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess >>>>> who they might be. >>>>> >>>>> YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here >>>>> on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine". >>>>> >>>>> Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list >>>>> will now be directed to null/dev. >>>>> >>>>> BYE AOO! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave: >>>>>>> Hi Matthias, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, but you loose that bet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and >>>>>>> installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only >>>>>>> readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with >>>>>>> 16Gb >>>>>>> RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close >>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer >>>>>>> SOMETHING to assist Peter. >>>>>> I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user. >>>>>> >>>>>> And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer. >>>>>> >>>>>>> @Peter: >>>>>>> On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO >>>>>>> 4.1.13 >>>>>>> edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of >>>>>>> to create a crash, but it remained rock solid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there any difference between the RC and released code? >>>>>> No. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Matthias >>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave: >>>>>>>>> Hi Matthias, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have never been a fan of GNOME. >>>>>>>> I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and >>>>>>>> a lot >>>>>>>> of people *are* using GNOME... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Matthias >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other >>>>>>>>>> distributions when >>>>>>>>>> GNOME is used as DE. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Matthias >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave: >>>>>>>>>>> On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As soon as I have added a OLE Calc part through Copy&Paste (From >>>>>>>>>>>> LibreOffice :-D ), I get performance issues including crashes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone heard of performance issues in this constraint? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the document: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZScKadukzWfZGeJWsTEaGf1ORrLrmwGl/view?usp=sharing >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am on Ubunutu 20.04. AOO is the 4.1.13 RC candidate. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My machine is an Intel I5, with 32GB, and SSD hard disk. (So >>>>>>>>>>>> recent fast >>>>>>>>>>>> machine) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All the best >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if this will be of any help to you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My hardware spec is very similar to yours and I am on Linux >>>>>>>>>>> Mint 20.3 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't get any (performance issues?) with your document in AOO >>>>>>>>>>> 4.1.13 >>>>>>>>>>> (Released) and no crash when editing the OLE Calc object, with >>>>>>>>>>> either >>>>>>>>>>> AOO or LibreOffice on Linux. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> However, I do get a 100% reproducible crash when attempting to >>>>>>>>>>> edit the >>>>>>>>>>> OLE Calc object in your document with LibreOffice 7.3.5.2 x64 >>>>>>>>>>> on Win 10, >>>>>>>>>>> but it does not crash LibreOffice 7.4.0.2 x64 on Win 10. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
