Am 10. September 2026 12:24:19 MESZ schrieb Jim Jagielski <[email protected]>:
>On our builds, yes of course. But we should not force someone who downloads 
>the source and builds for themselves to also sign that.
>
>Traditionally, we've always signed after we build as a separate process from 
>building the community build DMGs.
>
>Hopefully that's a bit more clear :) 
Ok. And what solution do you propose?
Apple says packaging involves signing. You can not change that.
I am for we release proper signed software or none at all. There is no in 
between anymore. 
>
>> On Sep 10, 2026, at 5:59 AM, Peter Kovacs <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Am 10. September 2026 11:47:21 MESZ schrieb Jim Jagielski <[email protected]>:
>>> I can't imagine the regular user wanting/needing to sign...
>> Sorry maybe I was not clear.
>> I think we should enforce signing on all builds.
>> The user can always see if that build is from us or someone else. 
>> Development builds will always trigger the gatekeeper.
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 10, 2026, at 5:38 AM, Peter Kovacs <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>> Am 10. September 2026 11:30:18 MESZ schrieb Jim Jagielski 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>>> I am also wondering if the actual signing script itself should be in 
>>>>> devtools, somewhere under release-scripts instead.
>>>> 
>>>> The process ist to sign the app, then package the image, and then you need 
>>>> to sign again.
>>>> 
>>>> I would rather enforce signing to be mandatory.
>>>> What we could put into Devtools maybe is the notarize of the installer. 
>>>> Which publishes the release at Apple. I guess. And then we could think 
>>>> about a process to publish in the store.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cool work.
>>>> Yes. I hope this will
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2026, at 5:14 AM, Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there any way you could pull out just the signing bits into a 
>>>>>> separate commit?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2026, at 12:26 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> "This is an outrage!"
>>>>>                      Tony Harrison
>>>>> 
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