Hi Charles, As always it's entertaining talking with you.
On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 16:02 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > Yes, it is one; I thought it was a community event. While technical > discussions are perennial to our project, I don't see the need for > segregating the community between hackers and non hackers; As I understand it this is a normal practice for organic communities: eg. the Linux Kernel Summit[1] - has purely technical talks, or say the Gnome Developers Summit[2], or perhaps aKademy (AFAIR originally billed as a "developers conference"). There are of course a myriad of hack-fests, and other highly technical conferences on many topics everywhere. Are you suggesting that these are fundamentally evil ? that developers meeting to talk, enjoy each others' company, work together and discuss technical detail is bad ? it's not as if we are excluding anyone - just warning ahead of time this will be technical, and our core constituency is hackers. Clearly broader conferences have their place too. > every part of our community is legitimate Did I suggest it was not ? > > Honestly, I'm happy to talk politics[1] vigorously: will you > > share an hour slot with me for a debate on the future of OpenOffice in > > Beijing ? > > I will be more than happy to do so Great; I suggest the Parlimentary debating style[3] and a proposal of the form: "Contribution to OpenOffice.org by entities with diverse motivations is a strength not a weakness" [ or you can cast it negatively if you wish ]. I'm sure Sun, or someone can provide an impartial speaker to compare it: I'm not sure how well it would go over to a predominantly non native speaking audience, though with slides we might get somewhere: sounds fun. > although debating with somebody from Microsoft could have probably > sped up things. Nice rhetoric, shame about the mismatch with reality; and what do you want to speed up ? I was thinking of starting with "Why I believe Open-Source/Free Software is the disruptive movement of our time" - I suspect MS has a different view. > Of course, such a debate is possible provided I can get the funding > to go there, and I realize that you and I, just like many other > contributors, are facing this problem. Book early to save :-) > See my first comment: provided that the community as a whole is > invited, it is a Regicon, yes. Honestly, substance concerns me far more than branding; do call it what you will; all are welcome - the content will be ~exclusively technical. Regards, Michael. [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Kernel_Developers_Summit + sadly invitation only, not my preferred approach. [2] - http://live.gnome.org/BostonSummit [3] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_debate -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]