What is HOCON?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 8:07 AM Jean-Luc Deprez <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I've actually made the sleeping bear analysis before executing and accepted
> the risk of landing the wrath of the community, because the bears would get
> some poking at some point and IMHO rather now then after 18 months of work.
> I don't know much about gorilla's.
>
> Anyhow, both on incubator general and in legal JIRA, there was just more
> pushback.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/qvscwtxp6b8kz5105fxhrf8f215px4tg
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-625?focusedCommentId=17630097&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17630097
>
> Noneone seems to want to state "it is THE LAW", but from within the
> existing organization, I think it's safe to say ~ 9/10 are firmly
> unfavorable and only one said it would be possible/not a dealbreaker.
>
> So it's probably safe to state org.apache.pekko will have to be it.
>
> So what about the even less popular idea:
>
> HOCON, as that translates to system properties, both of which suffer from
> the same namespace collision problems as packages.
>
> And it is way cheaper in HOCON.
>
> org.apache.pekko{
>   ...
> }
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 2:05 PM Claude Warren, Jr
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Two lessons I have learned in all my years of software development.
> > 1. Don't poke a sleeping bear.
> > 2. Don't start dancing with a gorilla unless you are ready to dance until
> > the gorilla is finished.
> >
> > My suggestion: use the org.apache.pekko name, there will be plenty of
> other
> > bears and gorillas to play with later.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 8:11 AM Jean-Luc Deprez <[email protected]
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I observed the legal list was mostly driven by Jira, so I posted it
> here
> > > instead
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-625
> > >
> > > The trademark one seems to be a "classic inbox", so I just sent a mail.
> > > 🤷‍♂️.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 8:37 AM Jean-Luc Deprez <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll reach out to both addresses provided by Justin, see if it can be
> > > > settled "quickly".
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 8:30 AM Jean-Baptiste OnofrĂ© <[email protected]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> As Pekko is now a ASF project, it would be good to use
> > > >> org.apache.pekko (like most of other projects).
> > > >>
> > > >> However, there is no "strong" enforcement by Apache here, so if we
> > > >> have a consensus to use pekko (short name), that's fine for me too.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >> JB
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 10:41 PM PJ Fanning <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi everyone,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This issue could be contentious but it would be good to get
> > agreement
> > > >> so we can start making changes in the new git repos.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > There is discussion about the new package name for Scala/Java
> > classes
> > > >> at:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/mdedetrich/akka-apache-project/discussions/8#discussioncomment-3755587
> > > >> >
> > > >> > A discussion among members of the Apache Incubator team can be
> found
> > > at:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/cjo86gdwvqlqslq68gd0c8hxq6ds6yrz
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I think it is fair to say that the vote is between 2 options:
> > > >> > * pekko
> > > >> > * org.apache.pekko
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I guess the aim would be to get people to vote for one or the
> other.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If there are no objections to this approach, I can call a vote in
> a
> > > few
> > > >> days.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Ideally people would express their opinions in this thread and
> when
> > > the
> > > >> vote is called, that mail email thread would just be for the votes.
> > Even
> > > >> while the vote thread is open, people can still add their voice to
> > this
> > > >> thread.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Regards,
> > > >> > PJ
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
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