Actually, let's close this discussion and open another on HOCON if you want. I would like to see consensus achieved on this topic.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 8:24 AM Claude Warren, Jr <[email protected]> wrote: > What is HOCON? > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 8:07 AM Jean-Luc Deprez <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I've actually made the sleeping bear analysis before executing and >> accepted >> the risk of landing the wrath of the community, because the bears would >> get >> some poking at some point and IMHO rather now then after 18 months of >> work. >> I don't know much about gorilla's. >> >> Anyhow, both on incubator general and in legal JIRA, there was just more >> pushback. >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/qvscwtxp6b8kz5105fxhrf8f215px4tg >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-625?focusedCommentId=17630097&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17630097 >> >> Noneone seems to want to state "it is THE LAW", but from within the >> existing organization, I think it's safe to say ~ 9/10 are firmly >> unfavorable and only one said it would be possible/not a dealbreaker. >> >> So it's probably safe to state org.apache.pekko will have to be it. >> >> So what about the even less popular idea: >> >> HOCON, as that translates to system properties, both of which suffer from >> the same namespace collision problems as packages. >> >> And it is way cheaper in HOCON. >> >> org.apache.pekko{ >> ... >> } >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 2:05 PM Claude Warren, Jr >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Two lessons I have learned in all my years of software development. >> > 1. Don't poke a sleeping bear. >> > 2. Don't start dancing with a gorilla unless you are ready to dance >> until >> > the gorilla is finished. >> > >> > My suggestion: use the org.apache.pekko name, there will be plenty of >> other >> > bears and gorillas to play with later. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 8:11 AM Jean-Luc Deprez < >> [email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > I observed the legal list was mostly driven by Jira, so I posted it >> here >> > > instead >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-625 >> > > >> > > The trademark one seems to be a "classic inbox", so I just sent a >> mail. >> > > 🤷‍♂️. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 8:37 AM Jean-Luc Deprez < >> [email protected] >> > > >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > I'll reach out to both addresses provided by Justin, see if it can >> be >> > > > settled "quickly". >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 8:30 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >> [email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> Hi, >> > > >> >> > > >> As Pekko is now a ASF project, it would be good to use >> > > >> org.apache.pekko (like most of other projects). >> > > >> >> > > >> However, there is no "strong" enforcement by Apache here, so if we >> > > >> have a consensus to use pekko (short name), that's fine for me too. >> > > >> >> > > >> Regards >> > > >> JB >> > > >> >> > > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 10:41 PM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Hi everyone, >> > > >> > >> > > >> > This issue could be contentious but it would be good to get >> > agreement >> > > >> so we can start making changes in the new git repos. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > There is discussion about the new package name for Scala/Java >> > classes >> > > >> at: >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> https://github.com/mdedetrich/akka-apache-project/discussions/8#discussioncomment-3755587 >> > > >> > >> > > >> > A discussion among members of the Apache Incubator team can be >> found >> > > at: >> > > >> > >> > > >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/cjo86gdwvqlqslq68gd0c8hxq6ds6yrz >> > > >> > >> > > >> > I think it is fair to say that the vote is between 2 options: >> > > >> > * pekko >> > > >> > * org.apache.pekko >> > > >> > >> > > >> > I guess the aim would be to get people to vote for one or the >> other. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > If there are no objections to this approach, I can call a vote >> in a >> > > few >> > > >> days. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Ideally people would express their opinions in this thread and >> when >> > > the >> > > >> vote is called, that mail email thread would just be for the votes. >> > Even >> > > >> while the vote thread is open, people can still add their voice to >> > this >> > > >> thread. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Regards, >> > > >> > PJ >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> >
