Hi,

@Matthew thanks for letting me know. I think the topics I choose to cover
might fit well combined with yours. I have chosen to focus on Apache Pekko
from a contributor/adopter point of view (my talk wouldn't explore the
process for the Apache Incubator and the Akka background).

Few questions for @Justin or @Claude as they are heavily involved in the
committee:



- How amendable the talk can be after the submission (i.e.: changing the
number of speakers)?

- Is the length of the talk fixed at 40 minutes?

- Do you have any preference regarding multiple Apache Pekko talks in the
incubator track vs fewer talks covering mixed topics?



Thanks in advance,

Samuele

Il giorno lun 3 lug 2023 alle ore 16:07 Matthew Benedict de Detrich <
[email protected]> ha scritto:

> So I was planning to submit an abstract tomorrow for a talk on the
> Incubator track, it's about the journey/process of Pekko in Incubator. In
> my case the talk would be planned to be around 40 minutes as its meant to
> dive into various broad overarching topics, i.e.
>
> - The context/history of Akka and how it got to the license change event
> and what lessons can we learn about OS in general
> - Differences of governance of Scala + Akka OS projects and Apache
> projects (i.e. the "Apache way")
> - Process in the Apache incubator which we found eye opening and what
> learnings that both Pekko and Apache can take from this
> - The legal/license issues we had to deal with along with the
> ramifications of it
>
> @Samuele There seems to be some overlap here (i.e. Apache vs Scala
> OS/Akka governance) but you also seem to be covering some topics that are
> quite orthogonal, i.e. approaching Apache from an Enterprise world and what
> measures has Microsoft put in place to try and do better next time round. I
> was going to initially suggest that we try and focus on these separate
> topics but if as you state you don't have that much content to cover the
> ~40 minutes needed I am definitely open to collaborating (it shouldn't be
> too hard to split the talk up into separate parts where we can discuss
> these different topics separately).
>
> I personally don't have an issue with this (collaborating on the talk)
> albeit we are starting to hit a little bit of a deadline when it comes to
> submitting the abstract for CFP (still have 10 days), although one thing to
> note is that you can modify the abstract after initial submission (we can
> also ask the organizers about how ammendable the talk can be wrt changing
> the number of speakers, also mentioning that you just got approval right
> now from Microsoft). I would say that if we end up collaborating we also
> should plan on how to organize this (i.e. initially sharing slides and then
> doing some demo presentations). And yet another thing to consider is
> whether bombarbing the incubator track with too many Pekko talks would
> hamper the chances of any of the Pekko talks getting accepted or whether
> it's a good thing (i.e. more attention for Pekko) assuming the talks are
> segregated enough on what is covered.
>
> There is also a final point regarding what's happening with Pekko is
> currently evolving, i.e. difference if we manage to get a release through
> (all fingers crossed!) versus not and the talk is landing at the same
> approximate deadline of our Pekko release.
>
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 4:36 PM Samuele Resca <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> sorry for the delay - I have now obtained the clearance internally for
>> giving the talk.
>> The talk will be focused on the collaboration with the Apache community
>> during the migration to Apache Pekko and our team’s discovery of the
>> "Apache Way".
>>
>> Learning topics covered in the talk:
>> - The differences between contributing to open-source software and
>> contributing to open-source software under the Apache Foundation.
>> - How to approach the Apache Foundation while working in the enterprise
>> world.
>> - The importance of supporting the community, not only by coding, but by
>> producing docs, triaging, and doing manual testing.
>> - What measures have we put in place at our team at Microsoft to try to
>> do even better next time?
>> - How "Apache Way" can help you to grow as an engineer.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I think the talk will be about 20 minutes, which is only
>> half the length of the slot. So, I'm open to partner-up with other folks in
>> the community.
>> I'm adding Sean Glover and Matthew Benedict de Detrich to this thread as
>> I remember they were planning to submit a talk.
>>
>> Few questions:
>> - Are you still planning to give a talk on Apache Pekko? If yes, are you
>> still keen to collaborate?
>> - Do you have already an idea of the duration of your talk?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Samuele
>>
>> Il giorno ven 26 mag 2023 alle ore 10:14 Samuele Resca <
>> [email protected]> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> ack. I'm proceeding by discussing this internally. There are multiple
>>> people involved in the migration process from Akka to Pekko.
>>> I'm expecting to give you an answer in the 2nd week of June as I will be
>>> on holiday from today to the 6th of June.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, thanks for raising this. It is a great opportunity.
>>> Samuele
>>>
>>> Il giorno gio 25 mag 2023 alle ore 09:44 Justin Mclean <
>>> [email protected]> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As the chair of the incubator track I can a say a talk like that would
>>>> be well worth submitting.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Justin
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