On 12 November 2016 at 14:31, John D. Ament <[email protected]> wrote:
> Then yes, we have a different POV of what the use of this is.
>
> I'd be concerned with end users leveraging a test system.

The point is for us to be able to leverage the larger user base!

> There's ways we
> can handle it though - maybe add very obvious environment badging and not
> using similar data sets.

I already touched on that.
Replacing "Permalink" and using a URL that is obviously a test host.

I think it is important that we can use the same data, otherwise it
reduces the usefulness.

But we could rename the lists, e.g. change apache.org to
apache-test.invalid or some such.


> John
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 8:23 AM sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This thread is about providing a shared public test installation that
>> can also be used by end-users.
>>
>> Discussion of local developer installations belongs in a separate thread
>> please.
>>
>>
>> On 12 November 2016 at 13:06, John D. Ament <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I was able to get a ubuntu based VM working locally.  The install
>> > instructions seem to work fine.
>> >
>> > The only thing I'm facing now is trying to get my local changes syncing
>> > properly to the VM.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:53 AM Ulises <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Would it be beneficial to have a virtualbox/docker thing for local
>> testing?
>> >> If so, I think I have an old Vagrantfile I could polish and contribute.
>> >>
>> >> U
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 at 13:15 sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On 11 November 2016 at 02:30, John D. Ament <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > > +1
>> >> > >
>> >> > > would you want some puppet config to be able to build the box from?
>> >> and
>> >> > > would it be possible to grant the PPMC access to the box for manual
>> >> > testing?
>> >> >
>> >> > That's what I am assuming/hoping.
>> >> > Otherwise it's going to be far less useful.
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:21 PM Gavin McDonald <
>> [email protected]
>> >> >
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > On 11 Nov. 2016, at 1:16 pm, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Would it be worth setting up a test installation, along with some
>> >> test
>> >> > >> data?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > This would allow testing of changes to the code by many more
>> people.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > And would allow people who have reported bugs to see if any fixes
>> >> work
>> >> > >> for them.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > I think we should use only public data just in case (we could
>> >> simulate
>> >> > >> > some private mails).
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Since the Permalinks could not be guaranteed to work long-term, I
>> >> > >> > think the button text should also be changed on the box. Maybe
>> the
>> >> > >> > list ids could be changed as well.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Thoughts?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I think its a good idea. Ask Infra for a test box where a
>> >> Nightly/Weekly
>> >> > >> wipe and build of trunk/master
>> >> > >> can be available with test data.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Gav…
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>>

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