INFRA-12896 (VM for PonyMail) is now being processed.

Infra want to know who needs ssh access and who also needs sudo access.

I would like both.

Who else needs access?



On 12 November 2016 at 16:01, John D. Ament <[email protected]> wrote:
> Please note I'm not saying we shouldn't leverage a test box, we just have
> to be very wary on how it's used.  I like the idea of obscuring real data.
>
> On Nov 12, 2016 09:51, "sebb" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 12 November 2016 at 14:31, John D. Ament <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Then yes, we have a different POV of what the use of this is.
>> >
>> > I'd be concerned with end users leveraging a test system.
>>
>> The point is for us to be able to leverage the larger user base!
>>
>> > There's ways we
>> > can handle it though - maybe add very obvious environment badging and not
>> > using similar data sets.
>>
>> I already touched on that.
>> Replacing "Permalink" and using a URL that is obviously a test host.
>>
>> I think it is important that we can use the same data, otherwise it
>> reduces the usefulness.
>>
>> But we could rename the lists, e.g. change apache.org to
>> apache-test.invalid or some such.
>>
>>
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 8:23 AM sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> This thread is about providing a shared public test installation that
>> >> can also be used by end-users.
>> >>
>> >> Discussion of local developer installations belongs in a separate thread
>> >> please.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 12 November 2016 at 13:06, John D. Ament <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> > I was able to get a ubuntu based VM working locally.  The install
>> >> > instructions seem to work fine.
>> >> >
>> >> > The only thing I'm facing now is trying to get my local changes
>> syncing
>> >> > properly to the VM.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:53 AM Ulises <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Would it be beneficial to have a virtualbox/docker thing for local
>> >> testing?
>> >> >> If so, I think I have an old Vagrantfile I could polish and
>> contribute.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> U
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 at 13:15 sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On 11 November 2016 at 02:30, John D. Ament <[email protected]
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > > +1
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > would you want some puppet config to be able to build the box
>> from?
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> > > would it be possible to grant the PPMC access to the box for
>> manual
>> >> >> > testing?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That's what I am assuming/hoping.
>> >> >> > Otherwise it's going to be far less useful.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:21 PM Gavin McDonald <
>> >> [email protected]
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > On 11 Nov. 2016, at 1:16 pm, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Would it be worth setting up a test installation, along with
>> some
>> >> >> test
>> >> >> > >> data?
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > This would allow testing of changes to the code by many more
>> >> people.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > And would allow people who have reported bugs to see if any
>> fixes
>> >> >> work
>> >> >> > >> for them.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > I think we should use only public data just in case (we could
>> >> >> simulate
>> >> >> > >> > some private mails).
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Since the Permalinks could not be guaranteed to work
>> long-term, I
>> >> >> > >> > think the button text should also be changed on the box. Maybe
>> >> the
>> >> >> > >> > list ids could be changed as well.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Thoughts?
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> I think its a good idea. Ask Infra for a test box where a
>> >> >> Nightly/Weekly
>> >> >> > >> wipe and build of trunk/master
>> >> >> > >> can be available with test data.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Gav…
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>

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