On 1/26/18, 11:43 AM, "Andrew Wetmore" <cottag...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I don't think we need to build out the full ToC up front, rather than PAYG
>haha. There are tons of pages that I have not yet listed in the Google
>doc,
>and several decisions we have to make.
>
>For example, we have an Express set of controls and MDL and who knows what
>else. I presume we need to explain how these various sets of controls
>relate to each other...

Yes, and it also occurred to me that we need to discuss targets (SWF
output and/or JS output) and how to manage that.  And keep in mind that
someday there may be a third or fourth output.

My 2 cents,
-Alex
>
>On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:09 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> Responses in-line.
>>
>> On 1/26/18, 2:48 AM, "Andrew Wetmore" <cottag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Good morning.
>> >
>> >Least thing first: Does the Apache header absolutely need to be in
>>short
>> >lines with hard line breaks so it takes up so much vertical space in
>>the
>> >file? Please look at test-apache-header.md and see whether the header
>> laid
>> >out on fewer lines and trusting to line wrapping works.
>>
>> I don't know for sure.  There is a header scanning tool that we use and
>>I
>> just tried it and it didn't mind your reformatting, so that's good
>>enough
>> for me.
>> >
>> >I am fine with your suggestions about where "Hello, World" should be
>>and
>> >how "Developing an application" might play out. However, this does
>>raise
>> >the question of whether this sort of help-docs structure is going to
>>have
>> >an index or other means to locate concepts like "data binding" if it is
>> >tucked down in a larger set of instructions about applications rather
>>than
>> >being a entry itself.
>>
>> IMO, the 10-minute tutorial won't go into any serious detail about data
>> binding, so "data binding" would have its own section wherever it makes
>> sense and a link to it from the tutorial.
>> >
>> >I think the doc structure is still highly fluid and that we need to
>>either
>> >hold off on the ToC until we are closer to alpha-release of the
>> >documentation, or have a less-bulky ToC document. My rough estimate is
>> >that
>> >we have stubs for less than 10% of the pages we will eventually have.
>>
>> IMO, the toc.json is relatively compact and much easier to change.  I'm
>> not sure how to make it any smaller.  I could probably sit down and
>>crank
>> out all of the missing stubs in an evening, but is it worth it?  I like
>> the fact that entries don't show up until we create a page for them.
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>> -Alex
>> >
>> >On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:40 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Andrew,
>> >>
>> >> I took a quick peek at the Adobe doc.  I'm not sure "Development
>>Phases"
>> >> should be the first thing under "Create an application", especially
>> >>given
>> >> how the Adobe doc says that some of those sub-topics are not phases.
>> >> Also, I think there is more than one way to develop an application.
>> >>
>> >> My temptation is to leave "Hello, World" as the end of the "Get
>>Started"
>> >> section.  Getting "Hello World" to work will prove that you have
>> >>properly
>> >> installed the SDK.  Then, I would like to suggest tweaking the
>>"Create
>> >>An
>> >> Application" section to be where we build an app in 10 minutes.  I
>>think
>> >> we should start with "Application Structure"  I will discuss the MVC
>> >> pattern there as an option.  Then the next section would be called
>> >> something like "A (10 Minute) Tutorial" and the sub-topics will be
>>major
>> >> steps towards building an example app.  It will take you through
>> >>building
>> >> the UI, network access, maybe data-binding, and it will address
>> >>building,
>> >> debugging, and deploying the example.  It will pick up enough of the
>> >> development phase information that I don't think we'll need a
>>separate
>> >> section for it.
>> >>
>> >> I'm shutting down for tonight so I'll see what your thoughts are
>>when I
>> >> get going again.  I could also draft my version in a branch if you
>>don't
>> >> want to mess with the develop branch right now.
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >> -Alex
>> >>
>> >>
>> >--
>> >Andrew Wetmore
>> >
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