> So, IMO, it would be nice to do a similar investigation of controlsPallette.

You are right. Removing the y value has no effect.

I am wondering that maybe it makes sense to apply relative to the Container CSS 
selector and possibly a few others.

I’m trying to understand the specific cases where:
                if (positioner.parentNode != positioner.offsetParent)

Is required in setX, get x and setY, get y in UIBase. I would *really* like to 
get rid of that code, and I’m, wondering what doing so would cause.

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 12:36 AM, Alex Harui <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> In the case of the controlsPallette, how did it get its size?  I could 
> certainly understand that if you didn't have position!=static, that setting 
> top on the dockAndOuterContainer would have no effect, but you shouldn't have 
> had to set y or top in the first place.  IIRC, you couldn't use x,y in Flex 
> layouts like VerticalLayout/HorizontalLayout so migrating code shouldn't be 
> using it.  It is fine to create other layouts that support x,y as exceptions.
> 
> In general, for a framework, we want to make sure we understand and fix the 
> fundamental problem before we address any hacks/exceptions.  IMO, the 
> fundamental problem in the scenarios you've provided so far is that the 
> layout did not do what was expected so someone tried using x,y to fix it.  
> First we need that layout do what is expected, then worry about how folks 
> might resolve other issues, if any.
> 
> In ProductsView in RoyaleStore, the grip is an image loaded later, so there 
> might have been an issue there, especially on the SWF side, but I would 
> expect the browser to automatically re-layout once the grip image loaded.  I 
> dug through Git history and found that I was the one who hacked in the x,y.  
> It could be that early on, the layout did not use FlexBox so we had a similar 
> problem of responding to the grip image loading late.  But we should remove 
> the x,y and see if there is still a problem and ponder the right fix for 
> that.  ProductsView should not need to be setting x,y.
> 
> So, IMO, it would be nice to do a similar investigation of controlsPallette.  
> IMO, if you examine that div, it's offsetHeight should be 40 and if it is 
> then you shouldn't need to set style.top=40 on docAndOuterContainer which 
> means that it shouldn't matter what style.position is.
> 
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
> 
> On 6/6/18, 2:12 PM, "Harbs" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 11:05 PM, Harbs <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>              <js:Label x="20" y="20"
>>                                text="{locStr.UPLOAD_YOUR_IMAGE}"/>
>> 
> 
>    It actually, looks like the x and y values no longer have an effect on 
> this particular component, but there was clearly a reason they were needed to 
> be specified at some point…
> 
>    Another one. I have an image which needs to stick to the bottom right of 
> the app. To do that I needed to following:
> 
>      top: calc(100% - 21px);
>      left: calc(100% - 187px);
>      position: fixed;
> 
>    With a default of position: relative, I’m able to do this:
> 
>        top: -21px;
>        float: right;
>        right: 10px;
> 
>    This being said, it actually looks like I’m wrong about the way to set the 
> defaults being .Application *{}. This actually has a *higher* specificity 
> than .foo{}.[1]
> 
>    I think the only way to guarantee that it’ll have a lower specificity than 
> other selectors is to use:
> 
>    *{
>    position: relative;
>    }
> 
>    I’m less happy about this option than ."Application *” because it’ll 
> effect elements outside the Royale app if it’s not in an iframe.
> 
>    Harbs
> 
>    
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