I'm personally in favor of the two-tier solution as I think it would be more suitable for growing our community. As Julian said it's a lower barrier to entry.
On 2024/01/16 22:53:38 Julian Hyde wrote: > In favor of one tier (everyone who is a committer is on the PMC): > * People perceive that there are two tiers to the project (and assume that > the PMC is doing something nefarious, when in fact it is usually, quite > correctly, doing very little). > * Simplicity. > > In favor of two tiers (some committers are not PMC members): > * The bar to committership is lowered. PMC members will give someone the > commit bit after just two or three code contributions, or some nice work > answering questions or giving conference talks. > > Julian > > > > On Jan 16, 2024, at 2:47 PM, Nga Chung <nch...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > I also like the DISCUSS thread example for talking about future > > committers / PMC members. > > > > What is the pro / con of having committers who are not also a PMC member? > > > > Thanks, > > Nga > > > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 7:13 AM Riley Kuttruff <r...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Julian, > >> > >> That makes a lot of sense as a better alternative to the whole nomination > >> process. > >> > >> On 2024/01/11 23:56:13 Julian Hyde wrote: > >>> I don't think the process needs to be very formal (e.g. included in > >>> the bylaws) or agreed before graduation. But it does need to be an > >>> organizational habit. This discussion thread, if it reaches consensus, > >>> could be all the process we need. > >>> > >>> KVRocks' template email starts 'I nominate...'. I think it's important > >>> to lower the bar to discussing new committers and PMC members, so we > >>> can talk about people who "might be ready". Because often they *are* > >>> ready. It could be a simple email to private@: > >>> > >>>> [DISCUSS] Alex Doe for committer > >>>> > >>>> I think Alex Doe has been doing some good work recently[1]. They have > >>>> made a couple of good PRs, one of which has been merged, and have > >>>> also been answering a lot of questions in the forums. > >>>> > >>>> Do you think Alex has earned enough merit, or should we wait a couple of > >>>> months? > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-sdap-nexus/commits?author=alexdoe > >>> > >>> In my experience, once there has been a good discussion, the voting > >>> process is very straightforward. > >>> > >>> SDAP should also set a policy (if it doesn't have one) about whether > >>> it is possible to be a committer without being a PMC member. > >>> > >>> Julian > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 12:57 PM Riley Kuttruff <r...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> While working through the maturity model, I noticed SDAP doesn't seem to > >>>> have a documented, formal process for adding committers or PMC members > >>>> (at least, none that I could find). I think we should make an effort to > >>>> establish and ratify a process for this. I think the one outlined here > >>>> [1] would be fine. > >>>> > >>>> Let me know what you think or if you have any alternative processes in > >>>> mind. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Riley > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://kvrocks.incubator.apache.org/community/vote-a-core-developer/ > >>> > >
