+1 An issue is to discuss specific issues, and DISCUSSION will take about a topic. A few days ago, the same discussion[1] happened at APISIX community. The vote passed and the thread was here[2].
1. https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03325.html 2. https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r792a361c62b54058f6d378213a5bbc1cabdc7df188e5be8ff9270eaf%40%3Cdev.apisix.apache.org%3E <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r792a361c62b54058f6d378213a5bbc1cabdc7df188e5be8ff9270eaf@%3Cdev.apisix.apache.org%3E> —— Haochao Zhuang > 2021年8月14日 下午2:33,Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 写道: > > But you forget what is the side effect we people read answers. If they > asked in Chinese, we answer in English. The whole context is pointless. > Even the unperfect English statement is better than nothing. If we don't > push, who will? > We insisted in back to when SkyWalking is much younger, and less users. Why > we change this? Evem we have known this would not have good effect in long > term. > > SkyWalking has been a good example, and other community sees the solution > out, and learn from us, including TiDB, and other TLPs initialzied in > China. > Now, we give up? Please don't. > > The base line is, this is never a foundation requirement. See Dubbo, it > could nearly work only in Chinese, except official announcement. If we give > up global community, we could. > > But I would never support this direction. We cost too much to be here. > > > kezhenxu94 <[email protected]>于2021年8月14日 周六上午10:28写道: > >> I’m big +1 to enable it, the reason why I haven’t proposed it until now is >> that I doubt that whether users will use it to ask question, if users still >> ask questions in GitHub issues, should we transfer it to Discussions >> (GitHub provides a one-click transfer from issue to discussion though)? >> That would be a workload too. Anyway it is better we enable it now than >> later and users may adopt it quicker. >> >> Sheng wrote: >>> Futher, if we allow this officially, this wouldn't lower the load, >> instead, >> we double the load for ourselves >> >> In my opinion, the only reason not to allow non-English is from ASF >> perspective, if it’s from maintainers’, I think force Chinese users to use >> English will double our load as many of them use poorly-composed English >> words / sentences / Chinglish and that needs maintainers to translate it >> back to Chinese, what’s worse, they didn’t make them clear until the >> conversation goes back and forth for several rounds. >> >> ———————————— >> 柯振旭 (@kezhenxu94) >> Apache SkyWalking PMC >> Apache Incubator PMC and Mentor >> >>> On Aug 14, 2021, at 08:51, Chen Yihao <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, this is a proposal on enabling the `GitHub Discussions` >> Feature for the SkyWalking main repository. >>> >>> First, a bit of background, this feature adds a new `Discussions` tab to >> the repository next to Pull requests. The aim is to facilitate the >> socio-technical growth of the SkyWalking Ecosystem. >>> >>> "GitHub Discussions is a collaborative communication forum for the >> community around an open-source project. Discussions are for conversations >> that need to be transparent and accessible but do not need to be tracked on >> a project board and are not related to code, unlike GitHub Issues. >> Discussions enable fluid, open conversation in a public forum." -- GitHub( >> https://docs.github.com/en/discussions/quickstart) >>> >>> Now, with a fast-growing user base, it is observed that duplicated >> questions are flooding our QQ chat groups, Slack and even the Issues >> section. The original intent of issues was tracking code-related matters, >> defects and tasks. It is frustrating for the maintainers having to monitor >> and handle unrelated/ duplicated questions in the decentralized channels >> mentioned above, while on the other hand, newcomers face trouble digging >> helpful info -> asking more duplicated questions. >>> >>> Thus, I propose turning on this feature as a new channel for threads >> that are not closely coupled with code. Stakeholders could freely discuss >> their use cases, present new ideas and seek help from the community. Our >> `Discussions` tab could serve a purpose as a hybrid of Stack Overflow and a >> Forum. I believe doing so will further boost the community health, spark >> some great ideas, and most importantly, attract more contributors to >> SkyWalking. >>> >>> We may also want to consider the language scope allowed in this new >> section. `Discussions` being a less formal ground, more language diversity >> could help more users(SEO-wise) and contributors who are unfamiliar with >> English. Therefore, I propose opening up language-specific `categories`, if >> a mixed-language form isn't desirable. ( >> https://docs.github.com/en/discussions/managing-discussions-for-your-community/managing-categories-for-discussions-in-your-repository >> ) >>> >>> The above summarizes my proposal; I appreciate your thoughts, and please >> vote on the matter. >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Yihao Chen 陈意昊 >>> GitHub @ Superskyyy >> >> -- > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > Apache SkyWalking > Apache Incubator > Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings > Zipkin > Twitter, wusheng1108
