Done, it is opened, https://github.com/apache/skywalking/discussions
Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2021年8月18日周三 上午10:40写道： > > Ticket created, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22217 > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2021年8月18日周三 上午10:35写道： > > > > 4 days pass. > > > > We have 3 PMC members supporting. > > Let's ask the INFRA to open this on the main repo? And also, we need > > to add the link on the website menu. > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > Daming <[email protected]> 于2021年8月16日周一 下午3:32写道： > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > An issue is to discuss specific issues, and DISCUSSION will take about a > > > topic. > > > A few days ago, the same discussion[1] happened at APISIX community. The > > > vote passed and the thread was here[2]. > > > > > > > > > 1. https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03325.html > > > 2. > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r792a361c62b54058f6d378213a5bbc1cabdc7df188e5be8ff9270eaf%40%3Cdev.apisix.apache.org%3E > > > > > > <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r792a361c62b54058f6d378213a5bbc1cabdc7df188e5be8ff9270eaf@%3Cdev.apisix.apache.org%3E> > > > > > > —— > > > Haochao Zhuang > > > > > > > 2021年8月14日 下午2:33，Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 写道： > > > > > > > > But you forget what is the side effect we people read answers. If they > > > > asked in Chinese, we answer in English. The whole context is pointless. > > > > Even the unperfect English statement is better than nothing. If we don't > > > > push, who will? > > > > We insisted in back to when SkyWalking is much younger, and less users. > > > > Why > > > > we change this? Evem we have known this would not have good effect in > > > > long > > > > term. > > > > > > > > SkyWalking has been a good example, and other community sees the > > > > solution > > > > out, and learn from us, including TiDB, and other TLPs initialzied in > > > > China. > > > > Now, we give up? Please don't. > > > > > > > > The base line is, this is never a foundation requirement. See Dubbo, it > > > > could nearly work only in Chinese, except official announcement. If we > > > > give > > > > up global community, we could. > > > > > > > > But I would never support this direction. We cost too much to be here. > > > > > > > > > > > > kezhenxu94 <[email protected]>于2021年8月14日 周六上午10:28写道： > > > > > > > >> I’m big +1 to enable it, the reason why I haven’t proposed it until > > > >> now is > > > >> that I doubt that whether users will use it to ask question, if users > > > >> still > > > >> ask questions in GitHub issues, should we transfer it to Discussions > > > >> (GitHub provides a one-click transfer from issue to discussion though)? > > > >> That would be a workload too. Anyway it is better we enable it now than > > > >> later and users may adopt it quicker. > > > >> > > > >> Sheng wrote: > > > >>> Futher, if we allow this officially, this wouldn't lower the load, > > > >> instead, > > > >> we double the load for ourselves > > > >> > > > >> In my opinion, the only reason not to allow non-English is from ASF > > > >> perspective, if it’s from maintainers’, I think force Chinese users to > > > >> use > > > >> English will double our load as many of them use poorly-composed > > > >> English > > > >> words / sentences / Chinglish and that needs maintainers to translate > > > >> it > > > >> back to Chinese, what’s worse, they didn’t make them clear until the > > > >> conversation goes back and forth for several rounds. > > > >> > > > >> ———————————— > > > >> 柯振旭 (@kezhenxu94) > > > >> Apache SkyWalking PMC > > > >> Apache Incubator PMC and Mentor > > > >> > > > >>> On Aug 14, 2021, at 08:51, Chen Yihao <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Hello all, this is a proposal on enabling the `GitHub Discussions` > > > >> Feature for the SkyWalking main repository. > > > >>> > > > >>> First, a bit of background, this feature adds a new `Discussions` tab > > > >>> to > > > >> the repository next to Pull requests. The aim is to facilitate the > > > >> socio-technical growth of the SkyWalking Ecosystem. > > > >>> > > > >>> "GitHub Discussions is a collaborative communication forum for the > > > >> community around an open-source project. Discussions are for > > > >> conversations > > > >> that need to be transparent and accessible but do not need to be > > > >> tracked on > > > >> a project board and are not related to code, unlike GitHub Issues. > > > >> Discussions enable fluid, open conversation in a public forum." -- > > > >> GitHub( > > > >> https://docs.github.com/en/discussions/quickstart) > > > >>> > > > >>> Now, with a fast-growing user base, it is observed that duplicated > > > >> questions are flooding our QQ chat groups, Slack and even the Issues > > > >> section. The original intent of issues was tracking code-related > > > >> matters, > > > >> defects and tasks. It is frustrating for the maintainers having to > > > >> monitor > > > >> and handle unrelated/ duplicated questions in the decentralized > > > >> channels > > > >> mentioned above, while on the other hand, newcomers face trouble > > > >> digging > > > >> helpful info -> asking more duplicated questions. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thus, I propose turning on this feature as a new channel for threads > > > >> that are not closely coupled with code. Stakeholders could freely > > > >> discuss > > > >> their use cases, present new ideas and seek help from the community. > > > >> Our > > > >> `Discussions` tab could serve a purpose as a hybrid of Stack Overflow > > > >> and a > > > >> Forum. I believe doing so will further boost the community health, > > > >> spark > > > >> some great ideas, and most importantly, attract more contributors to > > > >> SkyWalking. > > > >>> > > > >>> We may also want to consider the language scope allowed in this new > > > >> section. `Discussions` being a less formal ground, more language > > > >> diversity > > > >> could help more users(SEO-wise) and contributors who are unfamiliar > > > >> with > > > >> English. Therefore, I propose opening up language-specific > > > >> `categories`, if > > > >> a mixed-language form isn't desirable. ( > > > >> https://docs.github.com/en/discussions/managing-discussions-for-your-community/managing-categories-for-discussions-in-your-repository > > > >> ) > > > >>> > > > >>> The above summarizes my proposal; I appreciate your thoughts, and > > > >>> please > > > >> vote on the matter. > > > >>> > > > >>> Many thanks. > > > >>> > > > >>> Yihao Chen 陈意昊 > > > >>> GitHub @ Superskyyy > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > > > > > Apache SkyWalking > > > > Apache Incubator > > > > Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings > > > > Zipkin > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > >
