Ticket created, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22217
Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2021年8月18日周三 上午10:35写道： > > 4 days pass. > > We have 3 PMC members supporting. > Let's ask the INFRA to open this on the main repo? And also, we need > to add the link on the website menu. > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > Daming <[email protected]> 于2021年8月16日周一 下午3:32写道： > > > > +1 > > > > An issue is to discuss specific issues, and DISCUSSION will take about a > > topic. > > A few days ago, the same discussion[1] happened at APISIX community. The > > vote passed and the thread was here[2]. > > > > > > 1. https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03325.html > > 2. > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r792a361c62b54058f6d378213a5bbc1cabdc7df188e5be8ff9270eaf%40%3Cdev.apisix.apache.org%3E > > > > <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r792a361c62b54058f6d378213a5bbc1cabdc7df188e5be8ff9270eaf@%3Cdev.apisix.apache.org%3E> > > > > —— > > Haochao Zhuang > > > > > 2021年8月14日 下午2:33，Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 写道： > > > > > > But you forget what is the side effect we people read answers. If they > > > asked in Chinese, we answer in English. The whole context is pointless. > > > Even the unperfect English statement is better than nothing. If we don't > > > push, who will? > > > We insisted in back to when SkyWalking is much younger, and less users. > > > Why > > > we change this? Evem we have known this would not have good effect in long > > > term. > > > > > > SkyWalking has been a good example, and other community sees the solution > > > out, and learn from us, including TiDB, and other TLPs initialzied in > > > China. > > > Now, we give up? Please don't. > > > > > > The base line is, this is never a foundation requirement. See Dubbo, it > > > could nearly work only in Chinese, except official announcement. If we > > > give > > > up global community, we could. > > > > > > But I would never support this direction. We cost too much to be here. > > > > > > > > > kezhenxu94 <[email protected]>于2021年8月14日 周六上午10:28写道： > > > > > >> I’m big +1 to enable it, the reason why I haven’t proposed it until now > > >> is > > >> that I doubt that whether users will use it to ask question, if users > > >> still > > >> ask questions in GitHub issues, should we transfer it to Discussions > > >> (GitHub provides a one-click transfer from issue to discussion though)? > > >> That would be a workload too. Anyway it is better we enable it now than > > >> later and users may adopt it quicker. > > >> > > >> Sheng wrote: > > >>> Futher, if we allow this officially, this wouldn't lower the load, > > >> instead, > > >> we double the load for ourselves > > >> > > >> In my opinion, the only reason not to allow non-English is from ASF > > >> perspective, if it’s from maintainers’, I think force Chinese users to > > >> use > > >> English will double our load as many of them use poorly-composed English > > >> words / sentences / Chinglish and that needs maintainers to translate it > > >> back to Chinese, what’s worse, they didn’t make them clear until the > > >> conversation goes back and forth for several rounds. > > >> > > >> ———————————— > > >> 柯振旭 (@kezhenxu94) > > >> Apache SkyWalking PMC > > >> Apache Incubator PMC and Mentor > > >> > > >>> On Aug 14, 2021, at 08:51, Chen Yihao <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Hello all, this is a proposal on enabling the `GitHub Discussions` > > >> Feature for the SkyWalking main repository. > > >>> > > >>> First, a bit of background, this feature adds a new `Discussions` tab to > > >> the repository next to Pull requests. The aim is to facilitate the > > >> socio-technical growth of the SkyWalking Ecosystem. > > >>> > > >>> "GitHub Discussions is a collaborative communication forum for the > > >> community around an open-source project. Discussions are for > > >> conversations > > >> that need to be transparent and accessible but do not need to be tracked > > >> on > > >> a project board and are not related to code, unlike GitHub Issues. > > >> Discussions enable fluid, open conversation in a public forum." -- > > >> GitHub( > > >> https://docs.github.com/en/discussions/quickstart) > > >>> > > >>> Now, with a fast-growing user base, it is observed that duplicated > > >> questions are flooding our QQ chat groups, Slack and even the Issues > > >> section. The original intent of issues was tracking code-related matters, > > >> defects and tasks. It is frustrating for the maintainers having to > > >> monitor > > >> and handle unrelated/ duplicated questions in the decentralized channels > > >> mentioned above, while on the other hand, newcomers face trouble digging > > >> helpful info -> asking more duplicated questions. > > >>> > > >>> Thus, I propose turning on this feature as a new channel for threads > > >> that are not closely coupled with code. Stakeholders could freely discuss > > >> their use cases, present new ideas and seek help from the community. Our > > >> `Discussions` tab could serve a purpose as a hybrid of Stack Overflow > > >> and a > > >> Forum. I believe doing so will further boost the community health, spark > > >> some great ideas, and most importantly, attract more contributors to > > >> SkyWalking. > > >>> > > >>> We may also want to consider the language scope allowed in this new > > >> section. `Discussions` being a less formal ground, more language > > >> diversity > > >> could help more users(SEO-wise) and contributors who are unfamiliar with > > >> English. Therefore, I propose opening up language-specific `categories`, > > >> if > > >> a mixed-language form isn't desirable. ( > > >> https://docs.github.com/en/discussions/managing-discussions-for-your-community/managing-categories-for-discussions-in-your-repository > > >> ) > > >>> > > >>> The above summarizes my proposal; I appreciate your thoughts, and please > > >> vote on the matter. > > >>> > > >>> Many thanks. > > >>> > > >>> Yihao Chen 陈意昊 > > >>> GitHub @ Superskyyy > > >> > > >> -- > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > > > Apache SkyWalking > > > Apache Incubator > > > Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings > > > Zipkin > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > >
