I’m really looking forward to these coming out (in whatever form) on a regular 
basis ;-).


> On Oct 17, 2023, at 7:06 AM, Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Personally I think Confluence (in-place) is fine.  Maybe start this way 
>> because it's simple & adequate?
> 
> +1  I think the simplest option is best for getting started, and then
> we can iterate from there if we find Confluence lackluster, etc.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jason
> 
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 10:42 PM David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry; I was/am recovering from COVID and was kind of a sloth in getting to
>> anything.  Thanks Jason for jumping in to help.  I put a bunch of thought
>> into this as you'll see below.  And I want to be involved as much as is
>> welcome.
>> 
>> Alejandro, I can't thank you enough for volunteering for the newsletter.
>> Coincidentally, Ishan shared the idea of this with me as well but I didn't
>> act on it.  I think a newsletter is the best communication tool for users
>> and potential users to get a sense of what's going on with Solr.  This
>> extends to us Solr committers; we are not always paying attention to
>> everything happening!  A newsletter could shine a light on such topics as:
>> 
>> * Events (conf, meetup, training, ...)
>> * Links to new blog/article posts.
>>       Not sure how to seek these out.  After the wide success of the
>> newsletter, we can hope people will tell *us* so we don't have to find
>> them.  The first few newsletters could actively solicit recommendations.
>>       I don't think we need a centralized place for new blog posts, e.g.
>> for Solr committers or Alejandro as someone suggested; plenty exist out
>> there with people posting everywhere already and that won't stop.  We might
>> want to link to them all in one place though.  Hmmm.
>> * Everything the PMC announces already (just links or possibly more)
>> ** New Releases
>> ** New committers & PMC members & PMC chair
>> ** Security vulnerabilities
>> * Give kudos to Solr contributors this period that are not committers.
>> (just a list of names)
>>       Could partially automate this with "git log" and more.
>> * Active areas of development
>> * Active topics of discussion
>> * Let committers (or anyone in the community?) send messages to readers
>> like:
>> ** ex: "who is actually using feature XYZ anyway?  No response means
>> deprecation!"    <--- yeah there we go, a threat to compel users to
>> subscribe LOL
>> ** ex: Interest in a meetup for Solr in city X.
>> 
>> Even if it's "just links" (like Alejandro's first draft), it's better than
>> no newsletter at all.  Over time, we can hope for more.
>> 
>> --------
>> 
>> Jason's questions were spot on.
>> 
>> Editing:  I think everyone with edit access to the Solr "space" in
>> Confuence (mostly just commiters but + some others) should feel welcome to
>> add/edit without permission at any time and without coordination.
>> Confluence has tools to "watch" and see edit history.  Perhaps the
>> non-published page can be named this clearly like "NEXT-DRAFT" which will
>> later be renamed to a year-month like dated version once it's published,
>> and they can all live in one listing (i.e. under one parent page for the
>> newsletters).  Then treat it as read-only.  A "TEMPLATE" one might exist to
>> create the next "NEXT-DRAFT".  Alejandro can lead this effort and add much
>> of the content as he has time for.  He already has the first draft.
>> 
>> Publishing: Not sure either on how it should be published exactly.
>> Alejandro; what are you thinking?  Personally I think Confluence (in-place)
>> is fine.  Maybe start this way because it's simple & adequate?  We might
>> consider somewhere on the Solr website as an alternative.  There are many
>> places where you could share a link. For some mediums like email, publish
>> the newsletter content so nobody has to click the link (albeit still
>> provide it).  Ensure the formatting is reasonable.  Alejandro, where was
>> Brian Profit proposing that the ASF would share such a thing?  If the
>> newsletter is mostly a list of links (as it is in its current form, albeit
>> a draft), I think it should not be shared beyond Solr audiences (i.e. not
>> beyond users@s.a.o email & slack).
>> 
>> Periodicity:  I worry a little Alejandro if you or others feel this needs
>> to be monthly, that it'll maybe be too burdensome, or that some months are
>> simply not that interesting.  I recommend feeling free to be loose on the
>> periodicity.  Maybe shoot for bi-monthly-ish?  I think publishing soon
>> after a new release (we just did 9.4!) could be really useful for users
>> that might just want to pay attention to the newsletter for news on
>> releases.
>> 
>> Thanks again.  Looking forward to further discussion!
>> 
>> ~ David
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 10:17 AM Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alejandro,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for taking the initiative on this!  You should now have
>>> permission to create and edit pages in Confluence - let me know if
>>> you're not seeing that on your end.  Happy to help with some
>>> copy-editing once it's up there!
>>> 
>>> Since this is the first of these newsletter proposals, maybe we should
>>> also use this thread to discuss a few "process" questions around the
>>> newsletter?  (Or maybe I missed these getting discussed elsewhere?)
>>> 
>>> The biggest question I was curious about: what does "publication" look
>>> like for these newsletters?  Will it be published in "Confluence", or
>>> are we using Confluence for editing before eventually publishing in
>>> some other medium like annou...@solr.apache.org, the Solr website,
>>> etc.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 7:09 PM Arrieta, Alejandro
>>> <aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Team,
>>>> 
>>>> Newsletter on ASF social media:
>>>> I just returned home from Community over Code, where I talked with the
>>>> Asfinfra team, and they redirected me to talk with Brian Proffit.
>>>> I talked with him about the new Solr newsletter, and he told me to send
>>> him
>>>> what we want to publish, the date to publish, and the email with a copy
>>> to
>>>> the Solr PMC chair.
>>>> David Smiley, please confirm you are okay so I can email Brian to publish
>>>> the September 2023 newsletter.
>>>> 
>>>> Apache Solr wiki newsletter:
>>>> As discussed during the conference, please give me edit authorization to
>>>> Solr Wiki to start uploading the newsletter there. My account should be
>>>> aarrieta and email aarri...@perrinsoftware.com
>>>> 
>>>> Linkedin Apache Solr account/group:
>>>> The Asinfra team told me they do not create social media accounts. These
>>>> are created and managed by each project. We can request templates and
>>>> publishing guides from pr...@apache.org and mmp group.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Alejandro Arrieta
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 9:43 AM Bruno Roustant <bruno.roust...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> +1 !
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le lun. 9 oct. 2023 à 16:54, Eric Pugh <
>>> ep...@opensourceconnections.com> a
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’d love to see it on mastodon/twitterX/linkedin too….   I bet ASF PR
>>>>>> would love to see this as well ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2023, at 5:36 PM, Alessandro Benedetti <
>>> a.benede...@sease.io
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1 I think it's a wonderful idea!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Oct 2023, 17:26 Arrieta, Alejandro, <
>>>>>> aarri...@perrinsoftware.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 0. Intro
>>>>>>>> Welcome to the Apache Solr Newsletter proposal September 2023. As
>>> this
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> the first newsletter proposal of 2023 we include Solr Community
>>> news
>>>>>>>> starting from January 2023:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Welcome Alex Deparvu as Solr committer:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/fx4o3y55ypqy1n06kdbq5k8h4pjxlowj
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Welcome Marcus Eagan as Solr committer:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/2p2fjm18g39x2mknxqnbr3gfcx0q6rrx
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Welcome David Smiley as Solr's new PMC chair:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/yrp2yll52r0fm2pbhw17b62oln63fp33
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Welcome Andy Webb as Solr committer:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/k449v7jl4bwg6f7x707tvw5ch2dk8h3f
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Welcome Justin Sweeney as Solr committer:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/g588106pohdwok7gpwwcsxpgvwxwwh41
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Welcome Colvin Cowie as Solr committer:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/ngzjs0b3mb201d2shfvzdysdd5g6xqz1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1. Current versions
>>>>>>>> Solr 9.3.0:
>>>>>>>> https://solr.apache.org/downloads.html#solr-930
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Solr 8.11.2:
>>>>>>>> https://solr.apache.org/downloads.html#solr-8112
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Solr Operator v0.7.1:
>>>>>>>> https://solr.apache.org/operator/artifacts.html#solr-v071
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2. Incoming versions
>>>>>>>> Solr 9.4.0
>>>>>>>> mailing list thread:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/j44golmqp4sjf2rk74pqktkrsc1do58r
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Solr 8.11.3
>>>>>>>> mailing list thread:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/j44golmqp4sjf2rk74pqktkrsc1do58r
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 3. Solr Improvement Proposals News
>>>>>>>> SIP-13: Cross Data Center Replication
>>>>>>>> mailing list thread:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/9y2qd7rs45049xbrt0gty40m4b5cv22y
>>>>>>>> wiki link:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-13%3A+Cross+Data+Center+Replication
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> SIP-14 Embedded Zookeeper
>>>>>>>> mailing list thread:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/mch6y4wsbqykcmfy4r76movmx1wz0375
>>>>>>>> wiki link:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-14+Embedded+Zookeeper
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> SIP-15 Node roles
>>>>>>>> mailing list thread:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/kwq609jxckpdqk54fvghxs66jtk92kof
>>>>>>>> wiki link:
>>>>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-15+Node+roles
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> SIP-19 Adopt JSR-330 dependency injection
>>>>>>>> mailing list thread:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/9y2qd7rs45049xbrt0gty40m4b5cv22y
>>>>>>>> wiki link:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-19+Adopt+JSR-330+dependency+injection
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 4. Links to blogs, videos, others related to Solr:
>>>>>>>> Apache Solr Community Virtual Meetup, September 2023:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://www.meetup.com/apache-solr-virtual-community-meetups/events/296344421/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> DataImportHandler 9.3.0 released:
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/8z65tf4jr2ppdm4xo5r1bygjzt8z8r3f
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 5. Upcoming Events & meetings
>>>>>>>> ASF Community over Code in Halifax, October 7-10 2023:
>>>>>>>> https://communityovercode.org/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Apache Solr Community Virtual Meetup, October 2023:
>>>>>>>> 
>>> https://www.meetup.com/apache-solr-virtual-community-meetups/events/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 6. Connect with the Apache Solr Community
>>>>>>>> Subscribe to Apache Solr Virtual Meetup for monthly meeting:
>>>>>>>> https://www.meetup.com/apache-solr-virtual-community-meetups/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Follow us on Twitter/X:
>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/apachesolr
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Visit our mailing list, jira, irc and slack:
>>>>>>>> https://solr.apache.org/community.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How to contribute:
>>>>>>>> https://solr.apache.org/community.html#how-to-contribute
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Apache Solr website:
>>>>>>>> https://solr.apache.org/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Apache Solr Operator website:
>>>>>>>> https://solr.apache.org/operator/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Note: This is a proposal and I will start working on the October
>>> 2023
>>>>>>>> newsletter proposal and create a Jira to accept contributions.
>>> Maybe
>>>>> we
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> publish this on the Apache Solr web if accepted in the future.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>> Alejandro Arrieta
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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