I like this initiative and I love the fact we have a volunteer helping on
this, is it clear what are the next steps concretely?
Should we summarise them to have then the relevant actors to act?
I'm a bit busy after the conference (and another coming) but I can try to
help if needed.

Cheers
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 at 15:37, David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds good Alejandro.  You are defining the protocol (with collaborative
> input).  We have freedom to pretty much do as we feel is best.  It's not a
> voted artifact the project/PMC produces (which would have rules /
> ceremony).  If you want to "publish" the newsletter at a certain date &
> time that is approaching, I recommend that you share a reminder of this a
> couple days or so in advance so we could have a last chance to edit /
> discuss.  Maybe by default the deadline is simply the last hour of the last
> day of the month, and you might allow another day or two for you to clean
> it up as you see fit?  If it's not substantial enough, tell us you have
> made this decision and propose a new possible date so that we know.
>
> I think actual publishing will be simple -- rename the title, provide a
> date on the page, and send/publish it wherever you wish.
>
> ~ David
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 2:39 AM Arrieta, Alejandro <
> aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Team,
> >
> > > I'm not very comfortable over-publicizing what I view as a first draft
> of
> > >the first edition.
> > Sure, no problem. Nothing shared.
> >
> > >What is 10-20-30 about?
> > The number of news/links available for that newsletter. We need to decide
> > on the minimum news (non-relevant, like a new release) to publish the
> > newsletter. If there is not enough news, we roll over them to next month.
> >
> > >At first you seemed super fixed on monthly, here you seem more
> > >flexible.
> > If we do not set an internal monthly release goal, it will continue to
> next
> > month. But if there is not enough/relevant news for one month, nothing to
> > do, move to next month. That is why I did not mention "monthly
> newsletter"
> > in my draft/proposal, but instead, to start working on the October
> edition.
> >
> > > BTW I just created
> > >https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Newsletters as a
> parent
> > >for the newsletters.
> > Awesome. :-)
> >
> > We need to establish how a draft/proposal becomes official. Maybe there
> is
> > already a default protocol, like for the release candidates.
> > Send the draft/link to wiki to dev the first day of each month and wait
> YY
> > hours for votes. If we do not have enough news for that month, inform the
> > dev and move all news to next month.
> >
> > Note: I am just a member of the Solr community trying to help. I may not
> be
> > familiar with all the protocols or politics involved. :-)
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Alejandro Arrieta
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 7:49 PM David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 1:01 PM Arrieta, Alejandro <
> > > aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Editing:  I agree with David's comments.
> > > > I would add only one thing. The September edition is finished/over
> > unless
> > > > something is wrong with it and needs to be fixed. Draft or not draft
> > that
> > > > is the September edition.  It is better to use our limited time
> > preparing
> > > > the October/November
> > >
> > > newsletter and make it better than the previous edition.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This is more about periodicity (covered below) than it is about
> editing.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I will share the September newsletter as Draft/Proposal on my social
> > > media
> > > > later today to make Solr noise :-)
> > > >
> > > > Publishing:
> > > > Anywhere it can be indexed by the googles and bings, and
> > PC/Tablet/Mobile
> > > > can access it. Solr Wiki is fine.
> > > > We need to make noise about it everywhere: LinkedIn, Twitter/X,
> > Mastodon,
> > > > mailing lists, ASF social media.
> > > > Here is one example of a newsletter from another project:
> > > > https://opensearch.org/blog/opensearch-newsletter-vol1-issue1/
> > >
> > >
> > > There's something to be said for not dating a newsletter, as I see
> there
> > in
> > > the URL of that one.  Flexibility.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Brian told me they can share on ASF social media accounts what we
> need
> > to
> > > > share, the newsletter, or a link to the newsletter. ASF publishes at
> > > least
> > > > once per one or two weeks project news on Linkedin. We need to send
> him
> > > > what and when to share it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm not very comfortable over-publicizing what I view as a first draft
> of
> > > the first edition.
> > >
> > > I propose that *EITHER* (A): more text be put into the September
> > > newsletter, not to change the past, only to elaborate what happened in
> > the
> > > past :-).  Then share it widely.  In its current form, I think it's too
> > > draft-like to be our first inaugural newsletter.  It will get
> attention;
> > > it's our first one.  I want to impress people and not have Solr appear
> > > second rate simply because you ran out of time Alejandro.  OR (B) let's
> > > make October's newsletter be the awesome one and that which will be
> > shared
> > > widely.  Not September's newsletter.  That is what I would most prefer;
> > we
> > > can announce both a new Solr version and also take the opportunity to
> > > highlight topics discussed at Community-over-Code.  WDYT?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Periodicity:
> > > > -If we have enough news/links to share on the release date (first
> three
> > > > days of the month), the threshold can be 10-20-30 news. If we do not
> > have
> > > > that many, we do not release and join what we have next month.
> > > > IMHO, for the first months/releases, we can share old but still
> > relevant
> > > > links or highlight Solr documentation.
> > > >
> > >
> > > What is 10-20-30 about?
> > >
> > >
> > > > -If something relevant happens, like a new release or some CVE that
> we
> > > need
> > > > to comment on, we do a release even if we are short of news/links.
> When
> > > the
> > > > next major release process starts, users know Solr 10 is coming.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Sure.  At first you seemed super fixed on monthly, here you seem more
> > > flexible.  Hey whatever.
> > >
> > > BTW I just created
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Newsletters as a
> parent
> > > for the newsletters.
> > >
> >
>

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