It would help but wouldn't solve the formatting problem or the one-way
communication problem.

On Thursday, February 20, 2014, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Daniel Gruno from ASF infra mentioned this when adding Github plugin
> to dev@ list support :
> "We may, in the future, add the possibility to filter out certain
> comments from being relayed to the ML (such as jenkins workflows etc),
> but this will all depend on how this initial phase goes along."
>
> Looks like for Apache Spark we need ability to filter comments from
> Jenkins.
>
> So if we could "filter" the Jenkins comment fro being sent to dev@
> list would this help reduce the noise?
>
> - Henry
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Andrew Ash 
> <and...@andrewash.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > I'm fine with keeping the GitHub traffic if we can
> >
> > a) take away the Jenkins build started / build finished / build
> succeeded /
> > build failed messages.  Those aren't "dev discussion" and are very noisy.
> >  I don't think they help anyone, and people who care about those for a
> > particular PR (because they're a reviewer or author on it) are already
> > subscribed through GitHub.
> > b) change the format of the emails that are sent out; I find them very
> > poorly formatted.  I'd prefer no deep tab for the message.
> >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-spark-dev/201402.mbox/%3c20140210192901.ce834922...@tyr.zones.apache.org%3E
> >
> > FWIW I'm filtering all emails from g...@git.apache.org straight to trash
> > right now because of the noise.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
> > chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> Guys,
> >>
> >> Whether you are a TLP or not the big key here is making sure that
> >> dev discussion does not happen elsewhere outside of the list. You
> >> can create e.g., a github-dev@spark.a.o list, but you will need
> >> to make sure that:
> >>
> >> a) if dev discussion is happening there that it gets flowed up to
> >> dev@spark.a.o. All development discussion must appear on the dev
> >> list and must be traceable as a project discussion and decisions
> >> appear on the list(s).
> >>
> >> b) automated/etc. email is simply that, and there isn't a ton of
> >> discussion going on on those github emails, and that it's mostly
> >> going on on the dev@spark.a.o list.
> >>
> >> If you can meet those 2 criteria/litmus test, I think it's fine.
> >> The big concern is that if the discussion is not happening elsewhere,
> >> then the decisions make for Apache Spark are based on information
> >> that isn't co-located with the Apache Spark project. So that's the
> >> thing that the PMC needs to keep in mind (note I said PMC now, yay!) :)
> >>
> >> Cheers and just keep the above in mind and you'll be good.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Andy Konwinski <andykonwin...@gmail.com>
> >> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <
> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >> >
> >> Date: Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:36 PM
> >> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <dev@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> >> Subject: Re: Signal/Noise Ratio
> >>
> >> >That is a very valid point about the list archives (which a mail filter
> >> >doesn't address and which impacts the community in a negative way).
> >> >
> >> >As of today we are a Top Level Project so I think we have a little more
> >> >autonomy for this sort of dev vs separate list decision.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Ethan Jewett <esjew...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Is there anything stopping us from using a different list, segregated
> >> >>from
> >> >> the dev list? The Github emails significantly reduce the signal-noise
> >> >>ratio
> >> >> of this list, and while it is possible (but annoying) to filter them
> >> >>out in
> >> >> our individual inboxes, it makes the archives of the list much less
> >> >>usable
> >> >> in many ways.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Aaron Davidson <ili

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