Ok, we already discussed about this but, the release doesn't need to be an executable, we can a provide a package and in that package there could be a script for downloading non license compatible resources.
Cheers, Rafa On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Rupert Westenthaler < rupert.westentha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Rafa, all > > OK than start with a 1.0.0 and 0.12.1 release. I can help with the > code base, but AFAIK only Fabian and Reto know all the necessary steps > to forge a release. > > If we want to have a binary release we need to create a new launcher > that excludes all data bundles included none ASL compatible things - > and yes - this will exclude all the OpenNLP models ... > > best > Rupert > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote: > > Hi Rupert, > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Rupert Westenthaler < > > rupert.westentha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I like the Idea of creating a roadmap. @Rafa would you be able to > >> drive this process. > >> > > > > Sure, no problem. The very first thing we need to do is to close release > > 1.0. For that, probably Rupert is the most indicated person to say which > > current issues must be included. I wouldn't add any other functionality > > until releasing this version. We have to decide also how is going to be > > released in terms of binaries resolving all the issues related with third > > party resources like OpenNLP models. > > > > After that, a brainstorming should start for next releases. First, which > > components are going to be deprecated. For the rest, we setup a roadmap > > around desired functionality or feedback from the users. I can take a > look > > to Jira and harvest those tickets that are interesting for the future and > > start closing old and deprecated ones. > > > > How that sound? > > > > > >> > >> I am around until end of Juli, after that I am on vacation for ~1 > >> month. If possible I would like to have this sorted out before my > >> vacation. > >> > >> best > >> Rupert > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > Hi Fabian, > >> > > >> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Fabian Christ < > >> christ.fab...@googlemail.com > >> >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> yes we have indeed the situation where we do not have a project owner > >> >> who is doing some oversight of the project. I am the current chair of > >> >> the project but also do not find the time to manage the project. I > >> >> would have resigned as a chair if there was a person who would like > to > >> >> be in charge and become the shepherd of the project. > >> >> > >> > > >> > Maybe it is easier for you and everyone after the reorganization. > Most of > >> > us have very limited time for Stanbol, but this might could change if > we > >> > are able to catch-up everything, get a clean release with the current > >> > codebase, build a new roadmap with the feedback of everyone that is > using > >> > Stanbol in regular basis and wants to join the discussion. > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Anything that addresses this issue is +1 from me. If there is someone > >> >> standing up and would like to clean up - go for it. > >> >> > >> >> In my opinion we should shrink the code base a lot and remove > anything > >> >> that was not touched for two years. Same for the JIRA issues. Just > >> >> keep a small Stanbol kernel around the enhancer that is manageable. > We > >> >> started Stanbol with a much larger team during a research project but > >> >> today we have to focus. And Rafa is right that this should be part of > >> >> roadmap planning. > >> >> > >> > > >> > +1. I can help on this. I can also help with some ideas for the future > >> and > >> > start discussions around them. > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Regarding a chat or meeting: We have to discuss this in the open on > >> >> the mailing list. We have the credo that anything that was not > >> >> discussed on the ML did not happen. So, just discuss the matters here > >> >> and only move to chat or whatever if really necessary. > >> >> > >> > > >> > ok. Let's see if we can bring together a great number of actual > >> committers > >> > for this. > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > Rafa > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Best > >> >> - Fabian > >> >> > >> >> 2015-06-16 14:35 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody < > dileepajayak...@gmail.com > >> >: > >> >> > +1 Rafa. I too would like to join the discussion. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Hi Fabian, Rupert, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I have been taking a look to the Stanbol Jira and certainly there > is > >> a > >> >> >> great mess there. For example, there are a lot of issues opened > more > >> >> than > >> >> >> one or two years ago. What do you think guys about having a > session > >> for > >> >> >> properly organizing this?. We can meet at the IRC channel or > wherever > >> >> you > >> >> >> consider and talk about releases, expectations, roadmap. I have > the > >> >> >> impression that there is a complete lack of planning for the > >> project. I > >> >> >> know that I'm not probably the most indicated person for saying > this > >> >> >> because I'm far away of being a daily contributor. But maybe we > can > >> >> >> motivate committers again by building a great backlog and planning > >> >> properly > >> >> >> where the project should go. I have been using Stanbol lately for > two > >> >> real > >> >> >> uses cases and I could share with you my impressions and provide > >> >> feedback > >> >> >> as functionality that would have been nice to have while > developing > >> the > >> >> >> projects. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> It would be great also to know how other Apache projects build > their > >> >> >> roadmap. Maybe we find a mirror to look at. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Cheers, > >> >> >> Rafa > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Rupert Westenthaler < > >> >> >> rupert.westentha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ < > fchr...@apache.org > >> > > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > > here is my draft for the report. Anything to add? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Hi Fabian > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Nothing that is so important for adding to the Report. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ < > fchr...@apache.org > >> > > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > > The project is doing well but on a slow level. Main issue at > the > >> >> moment > >> >> >> > > may be that there is no one who is cutting releases from time > to > >> >> time. > >> >> >> > > The last release was cut one year ago. The project is aware of > >> this > >> >> >> > > issue and is working on it. > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Thats very true! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Slow Progress ... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > * I updated most of the dependencies STANBOL-1419 (for both > 0.12.1 > >> and > >> >> >> > trunk). So we are again using the newest Apache Sling Launcher, > >> Apache > >> >> >> > Felix. New Apache Sling logging with lock back support, ...) > >> >> >> > * Added support for ixa-nerc - Named Entity Recognition models. > >> They > >> >> >> > provide much better quality models for OpenNLP. Languages: > English, > >> >> >> > Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch. > >> >> >> > * I am also working together with Alfonso Noriega on adding > support > >> >> >> > for the Stanford NLP sentiment annotation. For Stanbol this will > >> mean > >> >> >> > that the Restful NLP engine will support Sentiment Annotations. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > An other issue are questions about the Contenthub and CMS > Adatper > >> that > >> >> >> > we can not really handle as the original developers are no > longer > >> >> >> > active. During the dependency upgrades (STANBOL-1419) I noticed > >> that > >> >> >> > those components do not have any Integration tests. So while I > >> fixed > >> >> >> > all related module level issues (as reported by the unit tests) > I > >> was > >> >> >> > unable to ensure that everything was working as intended at > runtime > >> >> >> > (as for all other components that do have integration tests). > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > About Releases: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I am happy to help with releases. Best would be if I you Fabian > >> could > >> >> >> > show me everything I need to know to create releases by my own > in > >> the > >> >> >> > future. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > best > >> >> >> > Rupert > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westentha...@gmail.com > >> >> >> > | Bodenlehenstraße 11 > >> ++43-699-11108907 > >> >> >> > | A-5500 Bischofshofen > >> >> >> > | REDLINK.CO > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > .......................................................................... > >> >> >> > | http://redlink.co/ > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Fabian > >> >> http://twitter.com/fctwitt > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westentha...@gmail.com > >> | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907 > >> | A-5500 Bischofshofen > >> | REDLINK.CO > >> > .......................................................................... > >> | http://redlink.co/ > >> > > > > -- > | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westentha...@gmail.com > | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907 > | A-5500 Bischofshofen > | REDLINK.CO > .......................................................................... > | http://redlink.co/ >
